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Old 04-16-2012, 01:41 PM
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Kentucky committee votes to phase out Lasix
By Matt Hegarty

A committee of the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission voted Monday in support of a regulation to phase out the raceday use of the anti-bleeding medication furosemide starting with 2-year-olds in 2013. The new rule, which passed 4-1, will go to the full racing commission, which was scheduled to start a meeting at 1:30.

Under the rule, 2-year-olds will be banned from receiving raceday administrations of furosemide - known by the trade names Lasix or Salix - in 2013. The ban will be extended to 3-year-olds and all stakes races in 2014, and apply to all races in 2015.

The rule also includes a provision allowing the commission to reconsider the rule as of Sept. 1, 2013. Supporters of the new rule said that the provision would allow the committee to support a rollback of the ban if other states do not pass similar rules and the prohibition leads to weaker racing on the Kentucky circuit.

The rule passed despite heavy opposition from trainers. Dale Romans, a longtime Kentucky trainer, was denied permission to speak by the committee's chairman, Tracy Farmer. From a chair in the audience, Romans called the ban "the final nail in the coffin of Kentucky racing."
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Welcome to Belmont Park, the future home of the Triple Crown series.........................
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:03 PM
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Well, that will cut the Derby field down to six in a couple years.

Unbelievably dumb. You have elite athletes you want to perform at the highest levels, and you don't want to help enable their lungs to stay healthy?

Ridiculous. Every trainer in KY will go elsewhere.

Funny, I recall when New York was the only jurisdiction that didn't allow lasix!

I'm still shaking my head in disbelief at the ignorance of those running this sport ... out of all the medication problems in racing, they want to outlaw the one that helps protect horses from bleeding disasters?
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i don't expect the rule (if passed by the full committee) to stay in place any longer than the synthetic mandate lasted in cali. especially considering the third paragraph above!
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:38 PM
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So they are trying to phase out lasix, but mention nothing about adjunct medications?
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Well, that will cut the Derby field down to six in a couple years.
No it won't.
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Here is a good article about the subject. Although I disagree with the author's conclusion, I think it is a fair article that gives both sides of the argument.

http://businessofracing.blogspot.com...o-be-done.html
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I listened to Dale Roman's eloquent defense of race day use of Lasix. I also heard Shug question why an entire 2 year old race at Keeland the other day all horses were administered Lasix and adjunct. Has the breed dropped to the level now that all horses bleed in workouts? It doesn't make sense. What has the lifting of the race day drug ban done for NY racing? We raced for over 100 years with no drugs now in NY after 15 years of usage...we can't live without it. As far as I can see only the casino has improved racing in NY not drugs.
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I listened to Dale Roman's eloquent defense of race day use of Lasix. I also heard Shug question why an entire 2 year old race at Keeland the other day all horses were administered Lasix and adjunct. Has the breed dropped to the level now that all horses bleed in workouts? It doesn't make sense. What has the lifting of the race day drug ban done for NY racing? We raced for over 100 years with no drugs now in NY after 15 years of usage...we can't live without it. As far as I can see only the casino has improved racing in NY not drugs.
It's not a breed specific problem, it's a horse specific problem. You'll see the use of Flair strips in other equestrian events.
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It's not a breed specific problem, it's a horse specific problem. You'll see the use of Flair strips in other equestrian events.
apparently what i posted about this going on for centuries went unnoticed the other day by some.

i guess some have just decided no matter what is said, or written, lasix is bad, mmmmkay.
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Can racehorses bleed at other times besides workouts and races (eg., during routine gallops)? If so, is it safe or appropriate to give those horses lasix more frequently?
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Has the breed dropped to the level now that all horses bleed in workouts?
I doubt it, because the incidence of bleeding overtly through the nose hasn't changed over the years, either here before lasix or in other jurisdictions without lasix.

I think it's just our diagnostic methods and knowledge have vastly improved. Now we see how much EIPH there actually is in horses.

We used to diagnose only via seeing nosebleeds. About 30 years ago we started using regular bronchoscopy stallside to look down in the trachea. Now we can do well-funded scientific research on high-speed treadmills and alveolar lavage of the lungs themselves.
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