The "Other" New Arizona law securing the Border!

SOREHOOF · #1 04-24-2010, 05:28 PM

This didn't seem to get as much play. I'm surprised given the current anti-gun sentiment going around in certain circles.
http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seatt...t-matters-here

GBBob · #2 04-25-2010, 12:00 AM

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This didn't seem to get as much play. I'm surprised given the current anti-gun sentiment going around in certain circles.
http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seatt...t-matters-here

Why does it matter..the gun nuts love their guns and that is the majority so..

Nascar1966 · #3 04-25-2010, 10:13 AM

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Why does it matter..the gun nuts love their guns and that is the majority so..

I guess your trying to say that its okay for the illegals to cross into our country and try to steal from someone's property and that property owner should just turn his eye the other way and just let the worthless illegal who has no business crossing into our country just come in and take away everything that an individual has worked for all thier life. A person has every right to protect thier property by whatever means they feel is fit. The way I look at is that if a illegal is killed than thats less of a burden on all of us who pay taxes. With you being the Democrat that you are im sure your going to disagree with me and bash it and say I have no heart. You can say what you want to say this is America and we are entitled to our opinions whether they are right or wrong we have the freedom to express it. Im sure your going to feel that I disagree with your opinion no matter the fact that you feel deep down thats it the right opinion to have.

Payson Dave · #4 04-25-2010, 10:40 AM

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Why does it matter..the gun nuts love their guns and that is the majority so..

Are you calling me a nut????....lol......we may have to settle this with a duel using my matched set of early 1800's antique dueling pistols...which of course the govt can only have when they take them from my cold dead fingers....unless of course I get sloppy and leave one of them behind on my next bank holdup....lol

GBBob · #5 04-25-2010, 10:51 AM

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Are you calling me a nut????....lol......we may have to settle this with a duel using my matched set of early 1800's antique dueling pistols...which of course the govt can only have when they take them from my cold dead fingers....unless of course I get sloppy and leave one of them behind on my next bank holdup....lol

Of course you're a nut Dave, but it has nothing to do with guns

Look..I know my opinon on outlawing all guns is extreme, in the minority and never will happen...but it's just how I feel and nothing will change my mind..

GBBob · #6 04-25-2010, 10:58 AM

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I guess your trying to say that its okay for the illegals to cross into our country and try to steal from someone's property and that property owner should just turn his eye the other way and just let the worthless illegal who has no business crossing into our country just come in and take away everything that an individual has worked for all thier life. A person has every right to protect thier property by whatever means they feel is fit. The way I look at is that if a illegal is killed than thats less of a burden on all of us who pay taxes. With you being the Democrat that you are im sure your going to disagree with me and bash it and say I have no heart. You can say what you want to say this is America and we are entitled to our opinions whether they are right or wrong we have the freedom to express it. Im sure your going to feel that I disagree with your opinion no matter the fact that you feel deep down thats it the right opinion to have.

Do I think illegal immigration is a big problem? Yes..no doubt. But where you and I will never agree is when you make a statement that killing an illegal is ok so that you have less of a tax burden. I pay taxes..plenty of them...and I would rather do that than start whacking Mexicans who are here illegally. There are two problems, in my mind..1) Yes, secure the borders...I can't disagree that something has to be done and not letting them into the country is the most important place to start. 2) I don't know how you stop it, other than not letting them in in the first place, but it is an insult when they not only come in illegally, but then have 1o children on top of it, all of whom are automatically US citizens

Danzig · #7 04-25-2010, 11:01 AM

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Are you calling me a nut????....lol......we may have to settle this with a duel using my matched set of early 1800's antique dueling pistols...which of course the govt can only have when they take them from my cold dead fingers....unless of course I get sloppy and leave one of them behind on my next bank holdup....lol

sweet.

i just bought a taurus judge a few weeks ago-i love it!

Payson Dave · #8 04-25-2010, 11:01 AM

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Of course you're a nut Dave, but it has nothing to do with guns

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lol...I feel much better now... and of course i could not agree with you more.

Danzig · #9 04-25-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I guess your trying to say that its okay for the illegals to cross into our country and try to steal from someone's property and that property owner should just turn his eye the other way and just let the worthless illegal who has no business crossing into our country just come in and take away everything that an individual has worked for all thier life. A person has every right to protect thier property by whatever means they feel is fit. The way I look at is that if a illegal is killed than thats less of a burden on all of us who pay taxes. With you being the Democrat that you are im sure your going to disagree with me and bash it and say I have no heart. You can say what you want to say this is America and we are entitled to our opinions whether they are right or wrong we have the freedom to express it. Im sure your going to feel that I disagree with your opinion no matter the fact that you feel deep down thats it the right opinion to have.

that's outrageous. that punishment far outweighs the crime.

Nascar1966 · #10 04-25-2010, 11:23 AM

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Do I think illegal immigration is a big problem? Yes..no doubt. But where you and I will never agree is when you make a statement that killing an illegal is ok so that you have less of a tax burden. I pay taxes..plenty of them...and I would rather do that than start whacking Mexicans who are here illegally. There are two problems, in my mind..1) Yes, secure the borders...I can't disagree that something has to be done and not letting them into the country is the most important place to start. 2) I don't know how you stop it, other than not letting them in in the first place, but it is an insult when they not only come in illegally, but then have 1o children on top of it, all of whom are automatically US citizens

Wow we actually are in agreement that illegal immigration is a big problem. Maybe there is hope for the two of us. As far whacking Mexicans havent some Americans been whacked in Mexico for no reason? There should be a law passed that if a child is born in the USA to non-USA citizens then that child should not legally become an American citizen. We have an enormous amount of pregnant Mexican women giving birth in the USA just so that child can become an American citizen, next thing you know the husband, both sets of parent, uncles and aunts are coming over also and become a burden on the taxpayers.

jms62 · #11 04-25-2010, 11:31 AM

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Wow we actually are in agreement that illegal immigration is a big problem. Maybe there is hope for the two of us. As far whacking Mexicans havent some Americans been whacked in Mexico for no reason? There should be a law passed that if a child is born in the USA to non-USA citizens then that child should not legally become an American citizen. We have an enormous amount of pregnant Mexican women giving birth in the USA just so that child can become an American citizen, next thing you know the husband, both sets of parent, uncles and aunts are coming over also and become a burden on the taxpayers.

Nah your not a racist... Just misinterperated.

herkhorse · #12 04-25-2010, 11:41 AM

^^^^^well played

Payson Dave · #13 04-25-2010, 12:19 PM

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sweet.

i just bought a taurus judge a few weeks ago-i love it!

with the .410's it should be good for snakes...do you have them in your neck of the woods??

Danzig · #14 04-25-2010, 12:30 PM

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with the .410's it should be good for snakes...do you have them in your neck of the woods??

absolutely. but i tend to leave them alone, unless they're poisonous and in my yard. haven't killed one since a copperhead a few years back, and of course those born pissed-off cottonmouths. as much time as i've spent in the woods, i've never (luckily) encountered a rattler, but they're here. had a king snake in the yard a few days ago-took a shot...with the camera! lol unlike most around here, i don't mind them.

Nascar1966 · #15 04-25-2010, 02:08 PM

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Nah your not a racist... Just misinterperated.

Isnt Mexico the country that has the most citizens entering our country illegally?

Nascar1966 · #16 04-25-2010, 02:10 PM

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absolutely. but i tend to leave them alone, unless they're poisonous and in my yard. haven't killed one since a copperhead a few years back, and of course those born pissed-off cottonmouths. as much time as i've spent in the woods, i've never (luckily) encountered a rattler, but they're here. had a king snake in the yard a few days ago-took a shot...with the camera! lol unlike most around here, i don't mind them.

Taking a pic of a king snake in your yard. Are you trying to become the next Steve Irwin?

brianwspencer · #17 04-25-2010, 02:13 PM

Shorter Nascar: Dead illegal immigrants are less of a problem for me than living ones, so bully for you if you turn a living one into a dead one, as far as I'm concerned.

Every time...just when I think you can't outdo yourself.

Danzig · #18 04-25-2010, 02:22 PM

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Taking a pic of a king snake in your yard. Are you trying to become the next Steve Irwin?

no

i also have a pic of a snake over 6 feet long, a black racer. pretty cool looking. i find generally that people fear what they don't understand, and snakes certainly fit that category. i shake my head when i hear 'the only good snake is a dead one'. king snakes kill poisonous snakes, so why would i not want one in my yard? only four venemous types of snakes in this country, many don't realize that.

hi_im_god · #19 04-25-2010, 03:53 PM

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no

i also have a pic of a snake over 6 feet long, a black racer. pretty cool looking. i find generally that people fear what they don't understand, and snakes certainly fit that category. i shake my head when i hear 'the only good snake is a dead one'. king snakes kill poisonous snakes, so why would i not want one in my yard? only four venemous types of snakes in this country, many don't realize that.

i have no simpathy for snakes that enter peoples yards illegally or against the law. they just want to have they're snake babies all over someone elses lawn. and i'm not a snakist. i might actually be married to a snake. anyway we may disagree but i respect your opinion. enjoy you're weekend.

brianwspencer · #20 04-25-2010, 03:55 PM

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i have no simpathy for snakes that enter peoples yards illegally or against the law. they just want to have they're snake babies all over someone elses lawn. anyway, we may disagree but i respect your opinion. enjoy you're weekend. and i'm not a snakist. i might actually be married to a snake.

WIN.