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Old 06-07-2012, 11:36 AM
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Can we just shorten the protocol and can this " The Jeff Mullins Rule"?
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:13 PM
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i read an opinion that ny need only have done as churchill does for the derby-assign security to the runners themselves. that way, trainers don't have two areas to worry about, they don't have personnel and horses in two different places, etc. made sense to me. especially considering that they had them move so far ahead of the race. i didn't think about all the logistics when it was originally presented.
i also read that some are saying IHA shouldn't be allowed to run because he was 3 mins late moving. gimme a break.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:20 PM
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i read an opinion that ny need only have done as churchill does for the derby-assign security to the runners themselves. that way, trainers don't have two areas to worry about, they don't have personnel and horses in two different places, etc. made sense to me. especially considering that they had them move so far ahead of the race. i didn't think about all the logistics when it was originally presented.
i also read that some are saying IHA shouldn't be allowed to run because he was 3 mins late moving. gimme a break.
Why should logistics matter when the NYSRWB put these protocols in place not to protect the betting public, but rather to try to save face from their recent failure to detect the failure to roll back the 1% takeout and to further make NYRA look bad so they can kiss Cuomo's royal a$$?
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Old 06-07-2012, 01:46 PM
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They weren't going to let Matz & O'Neill cook oats for their horses today until some inquiries were made to a higher authority and an OK was garnered...
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:30 PM
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They weren't going to let Matz & O'Neill cook oats for their horses today until some inquiries were made to a higher authority and an OK was garnered...
This has gone beyond foolish and ridiculous.

These people now "in charge" do realize that we actually hammer metal plates onto horses hooves with nails, right? And that's not some illegal "soring"?
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:34 PM
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....I guess a little cinnamon and sugar for that oatmeal may be out of the question.
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:43 PM
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....I guess a little cinnamon and sugar for that oatmeal may be out of the question.
A practice known as "CreamOfWheating"
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:06 PM
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The Post reporting that the trainers are starting to get a bit more vocal about this NYSRWB charade:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/horse...I0nmM318OB2XAN
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:10 PM
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The Belmont Stakes brought to you by NYRA Management and Poland.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:16 PM
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A practice known as "CreamOfWheating"
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yeah, steve, i saw they said 'NO!' to the oat cooking. didn't realize that cooking the oats could be a problem-who knew?!
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:17 PM
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Why should logistics matter when the NYSRWB put these protocols in place not to protect the betting public, but rather to try to save face from their recent failure to detect the failure to roll back the 1% takeout and to further make NYRA look bad so they can kiss Cuomo's royal a$$?
but hey, at least they put fresh paint on the walls. definitely the way to make good with the paying customers.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:41 PM
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I thought Lukas had a great point as well --

“What happens if a horse gets stirred up in there for two or three days? A guy is betting his money believing a horse will run like he did in the past out of his own barn, so how is that protecting the public?”
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Just heard John Sabini being interviewed on Mark Cusano's Down The Stretch show on Capital OTB network. I considered myself fairly well-educated and usually refrain from hasty, mean-spirited comments. However, this man is an I-D-I-O-T.

Then, I looked up his bio. Of course, his background is that he is politician! Is Gov. Cuomo attempting to destroy horse racing so that State of New York can move all casino monies to general fund? Sabini appears to be an excellent first step if this is plan.
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Old 06-09-2012, 08:45 AM
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Just heard John Sabini being interviewed on Mark Cusano's Down The Stretch show on Capital OTB network. I considered myself fairly well-educated and usually refrain from hasty, mean-spirited comments. However, this man is an I-D-I-O-T.

Then, I looked up his bio. Of course, his background is that he is politician! Is Gov. Cuomo attempting to destroy horse racing so that State of New York can move all casino monies to general fund? Sabini appears to be an excellent first step if this is plan.
I saw that too. He sounds just like a politician. Nothing is his fault, if you disagree with him you are worng and tries to spin everything. That shot at Roman's was real classy.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:01 PM
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Yes and Sabini is the likely prototype leader for the vaunted Federal oversight committee that so many in this business seemingly crave for.
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