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Old 10-25-2011, 01:36 PM
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:55 PM
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Juvenile Fillies Turf adds some names besides Flay's Dear Lavinia:

Hard Not to Like (G. Cox)
Karlovy Vary (Arnold)
My Gi Gi (Koriner)
Questing (Gosden) -- Juvenile Fillies*
Stopshoppingmaria (Pletcher) -- Juvenile Fillies*
Just the idea that they are even considering running Stopshoppingmaria in the turf makes me feel Todd has zero confidence in her.
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Old 10-25-2011, 04:45 PM
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I know I'm really reaching, but how about Champagne D'oro in the Filly and Mare Sprint? The Princess Rooney was an ambitious spot off the break and she actually ran pretty well there considering she was pretty close to a pace that totally collapsed, it was her first race in 6 months and she was in tight turning for home.

In the Honorable Miss she was up against it on a drying out track that seemed to favor inside speed. Then she was stretched out (not really sure why) for her last two. At Monmouth she was reserved off the lead wide and seemed to just sort of give up. But last time she did some running, on the engine the entire way and although the race was farther than she wants to go, she ran deceptively well I think. Now she shortens up to what is probably her best distance and might be rounding back into her best form.

Obviously if Turbulent Descent shows up with her "A" game they are all likely running for 2nd, but do you really want a short price on her? I think all of the gaps (as planned as they may be) are a concern. Tanda seems interesting also considering the ride she got in her lone dirt start.
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:05 PM
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Just the idea that they are even considering running Stopshoppingmaria in the turf makes me feel Todd has zero confidence in her.
Not just considering.. JF Turf is her preference.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:07 PM
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Not just considering.. JF Turf is her preference.
Who is "her" the filly? What does she know she is a horse. She is 1100 lbs with the brain as large as a cell phone
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:45 PM
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Just the idea that they are even considering running Stopshoppingmaria in the turf makes me feel Todd has zero confidence in her.
You don't hear Pletcher talk about his stock like this too often...

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“We’ll work her over the grass this weekend and then make a decision as to which race she’ll run in,” Pletcher said. “She’s by More Than Ready, and More Than Readys have been very successful on the grass. We felt her race in the Frizette was not quite as good as we’d expected, and although she worked well on Sunday, she didn’t gallop out as strongly as she has before. By pre-entering her in both races, it puts us in a position to have as many options as possible.”
http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup...hurchill-downs
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:57 PM
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You don't hear Pletcher talk about his stock like this too often...
Good stuff. Maybe she's having a reaction to lasix. A surface switch should help.

The KHRC and BC committee don't need to worry about another Life At Ten incident. I think he's learned his lesson. He realizes now he should have run Life At Ten in the Filly and Mare Turf.
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Old 10-25-2011, 09:09 PM
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You don't hear Pletcher talk about his stock like this too often...



http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup...hurchill-downs
Lately, he seems a bit more forthcoming and honest when he's been interviewed about his stock.

The other day I read him say something about not being happy with a workout for one of his 2yos, for instance.
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Old 10-25-2011, 09:54 PM
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I know I'm really reaching, but how about Champagne D'oro in the Filly and Mare Sprint? The Princess Rooney was an ambitious spot off the break and she actually ran pretty well there considering she was pretty close to a pace that totally collapsed, it was her first race in 6 months and she was in tight turning for home.

In the Honorable Miss she was up against it on a drying out track that seemed to favor inside speed. Then she was stretched out (not really sure why) for her last two. At Monmouth she was reserved off the lead wide and seemed to just sort of give up. But last time she did some running, on the engine the entire way and although the race was farther than she wants to go, she ran deceptively well I think. Now she shortens up to what is probably her best distance and might be rounding back into her best form.

Obviously if Turbulent Descent shows up with her "A" game they are all likely running for 2nd, but do you really want a short price on her? I think all of the gaps (as planned as they may be) are a concern. Tanda seems interesting also considering the ride she got in her lone dirt start.
Looking like the early candidate for worst Breeder's Cup opinion.
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Old 10-25-2011, 09:59 PM
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I just looked at her PP's and I was wrong. Certainly not the worst opinion. Didn't realize how bad this field is other than Turbulent Decent who is hard to trust like you said.
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:06 PM
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Looking like the early candidate for worst Breeder's Cup opinion.
I thought it was kind of interesting.

Believe me, you will have far worse ones.
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:22 PM
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Looking like the early candidate for worst Breeder's Cup opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc&ob=av3e
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:36 PM
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:05 PM
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Hunt Crossing is out of Juvy sprint. Knee injury.
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:26 PM
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In FM Sprint Golden Mystery 2/4 at the distance and trained by the miracle worker Juan Carlos Guerrero for which she is 2/2 with. I will pay up to have her on my ticket and not kick myself in the ass when Juan Carlos works his magic.
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:31 PM
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In FM Sprint Golden Mystery 2/4 at the distance and trained by the miracle worker Juan Carlos Guerrero for which she is 2/2 with. I will pay up to have her on my ticket and not kick myself in the ass when Juan Carlos works his magic.
They all have a shot in that race. Well maybe not all of them, Turbulent Descent is a total toss for me.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:10 AM
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The late pick 3 Friday ending with the Ladies Classic, is there a price anywhere?
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:38 AM
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The late pick 3 Friday ending with the Ladies Classic, is there a price anywhere?
is there any the entire p6 sequence? I don't see one.
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Old 10-29-2011, 02:02 PM
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is there any the entire p6 sequence? I don't see one.
Maybe Sum of the Parts?
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Old 10-29-2011, 02:07 PM
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Anyone have any info on the Euro's in the Juvy Fillies Turf?
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