Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Breeders' Cup Archive
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 10-21-2008, 10:29 AM
cakes44's Avatar
cakes44 cakes44 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,735
Default

I know he'll be taking $$ of mine. 1 1/2 shouldn't be a problem for him, he's fresh as heck, and he's got class.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 10-21-2008, 10:35 AM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cakes44
I know he'll be taking $$ of mine. 1 1/2 shouldn't be a problem for him, he's fresh as heck, and he's got class.

Obviously the trainer is one of the best. I will try and youtube some of his races later.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10-21-2008, 11:23 AM
Handicappy's Avatar
Handicappy Handicappy is offline
Hawthorne
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Larchmont, New York
Posts: 516
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Don't they all enter to win for the most part? Shakis belongs in the race I suppose, I just don't think he has a shot.
I know. I do think he has a shot. It will be a firm turf course which he loves and they have him ready to run what will be his final race before going to Shadwell. It will be interesting and he will be running in the stretch.
__________________
Ron Thompson
Avatar is Invasor in his stall/Post Classic taken by my trusty cell phone camera.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-21-2008, 09:25 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,607
Default

2nd (10:50) Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint

About 6 1/2 Furlongs (Downhill turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Heros Reward Castellano J J 126 L
2 Fleeting Spirit (IRE) Murtagh J P 120 L
3 True to Tradition Carmouche K 126 L
4 Only Answer (GB) Peslier O 123
5 Salute the Count Coa E M 126 L
6 Storm Treasure Bridgmohan S X 126 L
7 Rouse the Cat Prado E S 126 L
8 Diabolical Dettori L 126 L
9 Desert Code Migliore R 126 L
10 California Flag Talamo J 126 L
11 Idiot Proof Gomez G K 126 L
12 One Union Espinoza V 126 L
13 Get Funky Valdivia J Jr 126 L
14 Mr. Nightlinger Theriot H J II 126 L



4th (12:15) Breeders' Cup Mile (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 Shakis (IRE) Garcia Alan 126 L
2 Kip Deville Velasquez C 126 L
3 Precious Kitten Bejarano R 123 L
4 Goldikova (IRE) Peslier O 119
5 Daytona (IRE) Solis A 126 L
6 Awesome Gem Baze T C 126 L
7 U S Ranger Murtagh J P 126 L
8 Bold Chieftain Baze R A 126 L
9 War Monger Desormeaux K J 126 L
10 Thorn Song Albarado R J 126 L
11 Whatsthescript (IRE) Gomez G K 126 L


8th (3:00) Emirates Airlines Breeders' Cup Turf (G1)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $3,000,000

1 Better Talk Now Dominguez R A 126 L
2 Red Rocks (IRE) Dettori L 126 L
3 Grand Couturier (GB) Garcia Alan 126 L
4 Soldier of Fortune (IRE) Murtagh J P 126
5 Winchester Smullen P J 121 L
6 Dancing Forever Douglas R R 126 L
7 Red Rock Canyon (IRE) O'Donoghue Colm 126
8 Spring House Velazquez J R 126 L
9 Conduit (IRE) Moore R L 121
10 Out of Control (BRZ) Gomez G K 126 L
11 Eagle Mountain (GB) Shea K 126
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-21-2008, 11:02 PM
asudevil's Avatar
asudevil asudevil is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,574
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
He just missed behind Thorn Song.
Needs another 70 yards
__________________
"I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'."
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-21-2008, 11:55 PM
brockguy's Avatar
brockguy brockguy is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,263
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GPK
Anyone know much about Eagle Mountain?
Kev, I think he could be a real suckers bet!!!
__________________


#Grand
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 10-21-2008, 11:58 PM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brockguy
Kev, I think he could be a real suckers bet!!!

Thanks Kev.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 10-23-2008, 12:34 PM
slotdirt's Avatar
slotdirt slotdirt is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,894
Default

What do folks think about Winchester? I just can't see it with all the other European options out there.
__________________
The world's foremost expert on virtually everything on the Redskins 2010 season: "Im going to go out on a limb here. I say they make the playoffs."
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 10-23-2008, 01:15 PM
hockey2315 hockey2315 is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,403
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slotdirt
What do folks think about Winchester? I just can't see it with all the other European options out there.
My second biggest play of the weekend. I know he beat nothing in the Secretariat, but his effort was VERY visually impressive and pretty fast. If he improves off of that he'll be tough. Of course, we have no idea how he's been doing since that race or how he'll like the hard turf at Santa Anita, but 15-1 (I expect he'll get bet down a litte) is way too high.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 10-23-2008, 02:49 PM
philcski's Avatar
philcski philcski is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 8,872
Default

Is it just me or is the Turf Sprint the absolute hardest race ever to figure?
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 10-23-2008, 03:08 PM
brockguy's Avatar
brockguy brockguy is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,263
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slotdirt
What do folks think about Winchester? I just can't see it with all the other European options out there.
he'll probably be found out over a trip too far. I will be very reluctant to use him...
__________________


#Grand
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 10-24-2008, 04:02 AM
Hwjb's Avatar
Hwjb Hwjb is offline
Lincoln Fields
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Halifax, England
Posts: 424
Default

I can't profess to be au fait with many of the European horses running this year, let alone their American counterparts, but I have had a cursory look at a few of the races and felt that Conduit looked to have a really good chance in the Turf.

I remember another St Leger winner, Milan, running a fine race in this a few years ago, staying on dourly in pursuit of Fantastic Light, but reckon that Conduit is less a staying type than that one and is more likely to have the pace to stay in contention as the race is taking shape.
According to YouTube, at least, Grand Couturier is the horse I'd be most concerned about, his last success deeply impressive. But at 9/2 and 6/1 you can afford to have both on side.
__________________
"Pound for pound the greatest sportsman Britain has ever produced." John Francome on A. P. McCoy.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 10-25-2008, 11:45 AM
Pedigree Ann's Avatar
Pedigree Ann Pedigree Ann is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 1,776
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GPK
Anyone know much about Eagle Mountain?
He fractured his pelvis; that's why he was off from October of last year. His comeback race was a good one, but the horses he beat weren't much. Mike de Kock, the trainer, was the best in South Africa and was a major force in Dubai, now in Britain. EM was second in the Derby last year, but was a distant 2rd, as was his third in the Irish Derby; I'm not certain he gets the full 12f. He certainly finishes closer to the front at 10f.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 10-25-2008, 11:48 AM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,607
Default

Turf Sprint
California Flag
Fleeting Spirit
True to Tradition
Salute the Count

Mile
Goldikova
Precious Kitten
Thorn Song
Kip Deville

Turf
Soldier of Fortune
Conduit
Eagle Mountain
Winchester
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 10-25-2008, 02:23 PM
Danzig's Avatar
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,931
Default

what a move by the filly, goldikova. congrats on the win, beautifully done.


lol

a girl just beat dick dutrow. hehe
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 10-25-2008, 02:25 PM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default

Makes you wonder how good Zarkava is, breathtaking performance. Wonderful filly in her own right.

GOLDIKOVA.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 10-25-2008, 02:52 PM
magic_idol's Avatar
magic_idol magic_idol is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Free the Sheeple
Posts: 1,392
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
Makes you wonder how good Zarkava is, breathtaking performance. Wonderful filly in her own right.

GOLDIKOVA.

The time was amazing !!!!!! i was just contrasting different horses against that time & wow i would grudginly have to say that horse would kick our arse 1.33 for the 1600 group 2 won yesterday down under all they could run it in was 1.36 3 secs slower !!!
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 10-25-2008, 02:54 PM
AeWingnut's Avatar
AeWingnut AeWingnut is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Suddenly
Posts: 4,828
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by magic_idol
The time was amazing !!!!!! i was just contrasting different horses against that time & wow i would grudginly have to say that horse would kick our arse 1.33 for the 1600 group 2 won yesterday down under all they could run it in was 1.36 3 secs slower !!!

the track at Santa Anita is typically lightning fast
but 3 seconds is huge
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 10-25-2008, 03:04 PM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by magic_idol
The time was amazing !!!!!! i was just contrasting different horses against that time & wow i would grudginly have to say that horse would kick our arse 1.33 for the 1600 group 2 won yesterday down under all they could run it in was 1.36 3 secs slower !!!
I think the course is a little faster today Idol, but yeah what a run by Goldikova, she just opened up in a blink of an eye.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 10-25-2008, 03:05 PM
magic_idol's Avatar
magic_idol magic_idol is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Free the Sheeple
Posts: 1,392
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AeWingnut
the track at Santa Anita is typically lightning fast
but 3 seconds is huge
Well we work on 2 lengths per sec so the winner yesterday would have finished 6 lenghts behind !!!!.. but our milers are pretty weak this year,in fact i have to say even our distance horses are pretty slow

Plus everything now here is sit & sprint
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.