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Old 08-16-2010, 09:19 AM
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Default #2 Tahitian Warrior 1-1

Is a total toss out for me today, he wins, I wont cash a late pick 3 or 4.

Look at who he beat last time, look at what the horses who have run back have done.
Now look at the Todd/Ramon... Look at who he faced, forced to press a hot pace the entire time. Even though he never has, I think this guy can rate a little. Desert Key came back and looked like the old Desert Key improving his beyer 22 points. The winner came back and ran huge here last week improving his beyer 11 points. Wesley Wards horse is important as well.
The race has to stay together, to many scratches could hurt.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:28 AM
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Is a total toss out for me today, he wins, I wont cash a late pick 3 or 4.

Look at who he beat last time, look at what the horses who have run back have done.
Now look at the Todd/Ramon... Look at who he faced, forced to press a hot pace the entire time. Even though he never has, I think this guy can rate a little. Desert Key came back and looked like the old Desert Key improving his beyer 22 points. The winner came back and ran huge here last week improving his beyer 11 points. Wesley Wards horse is important as well.
The race has to stay together, to many scratches could hurt.
But weren't you all over Trappe Shot a couple of weeks ago? Tahitian Warrior only lost to him by four after coming back from Dubai.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:30 AM
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Wouldn't the Ward horse hurt your horse?
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:35 AM
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Wouldn't the Ward horse hurt your horse?

Not if my horse can rate, like I think he can.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:58 AM
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Tahitian Warrior has much better early speed than the Pletcher horse.

Yeah, Desert Key came out of that last race and improved his Beyer 22 points, big deal - if you saw the race, Desert Key went to his knees at the start and absolutely lost all chance.

It started as a four horse field - and after Desert Key almost fell - it was basically reduced to a match race between Jackontherocks and Uwannapieceofthis .. which Jackontherocks easily managed to win.

In his next start, Jackontherocks was dogged down despite a loose early lead by that cool Suffolk Downs horse that debuted for a 4.5K tag in his MCL win.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:04 AM
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Tahitian Warrior has much better early speed than the Pletcher horse.
I was about to post the same thing. The Pletcher isn't as fast early as the Ward horse or Tahitian Warrior.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:31 AM
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But weren't you all over Trappe Shot a couple of weeks ago? Tahitian Warrior only lost to him by four after coming back from Dubai.

When Math? Show me when, I said 2 horses could win the Haskell. They ran 1-2, I said I was heavily leaning towards Lucky. I said Trappe Shot is talented, in a bad crop.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:51 AM
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When Math? Show me when, I said 2 horses could win the Haskell. They ran 1-2, I said I was heavily leaning towards Lucky. I said Trappe Shot is talented, in a bad crop.
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I said one could argue.... ARGUE, not talking facts. I would take Fly Down 10/10 times vs Super Saver and like I said Lucky and Trappe Shot are the real deal for sure. Its like your trying to make me look bad, but this time I really said nothing to warrant it. Personally, I would take Trappe Shot, Concord Point and Lucky vs ANY OF THEM. Its just an argument, we wont know till the end of the year who was really best, or at least the end of the Travers-Haskell-Dandy triple
All I'm trying to say is that you are talking about past company lines and you are all of a sudden discounting a horse that you thought was the real deal.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:53 AM
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Is a total toss out for me today, he wins, I wont cash a late pick 3 or 4.

Look at who he beat last time, look at what the horses who have run back have done.
Now look at the Todd/Ramon... Look at who he faced, forced to press a hot pace the entire time. Even though he never has, I think this guy can rate a little. Desert Key came back and looked like the old Desert Key improving his beyer 22 points. The winner came back and ran huge here last week improving his beyer 11 points. Wesley Wards horse is important as well.
The race has to stay together, to many scratches could hurt.
I wouldn't toss him off pick 3 or 4 tickets. Good luck!
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:57 AM
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1,6,8 are out. . . making it a 5-horse field.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:02 AM
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1,6,8 are out. . . making it a 5-horse field.
I thought the Levine horse (#6) was interesting.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:03 AM
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I thought the Levine horse (#6) was interesting.
Ya me too.
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