117.2 vs 116.0

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

No quarterback in a Randy Moss offense sucks.

Impossible.

You do realize Cassel has always been regarded as an inaccurate passer when he's not warming benches - he was 3-for-11 in his final high school start - and only completed about 54 percent of his passes this preseason on an offense that stalled. He barely won his job as the backup.

Yet, he's over 70% so far this year.

WRONG as per usual.

[Mortimer]

Vick was one of THE worst qb's in the NFL during his time.Maybe the worst.

Moss would have made no difference...in fact Vick may well have been worse.

Look at his ratings.......if you didn't look at him and know already.

Mobile quarterbacks suck.

[alysheba4]

randy moss recently had the idea to sell his urine as a canned beverage.....we know this beverage as red bull.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Interesting. A few years ago, before he went to NE, i was thinking what it would be like if Moss went to Atlanta and played with Vick. Can you imagine that offense? It would have been illegal and impossible to stop.

If Moss gets a free release - Tom Brady is the best QB he's ever had.

Both of them read defenses the same way - and many times when Moss broke off the route he was supposed to run - Brady would get him the ball quickly and with accuracy and almost never would miss him.

If Moss gets jammed well at the line and has a safety rolling to him - Brady is not a good qb for him.

The latter scenerio happened in the playoffs last year - and the former scenerio happened a lot in the first 9 or 10 games when the Pats were scoring 40 a game and torching everyone.

If you jam Moss well at the line - and have a safety over the top - Jeff Geroge is the only qb he's had who would stick with him, and still make big plays time and again.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If Moss gets a free release - Tom Brady is the best QB he's ever had.

Both of them read defenses the same way - and many times when Moss broke off the route he was supposed to run - Brady would get him the ball quickly and with accuracy and almost never would miss him.

If Moss gets jammed well at the line and has a safety rolling to him - Brady is not a good qb for him.

The latter scenerio happened in the playoffs last year - and the former scenerio happened a lot in the first 9 or 10 games when the Pats were scoring 40 a game and torching everyone.

If you jam Moss well at the line - and have a safety over the top - Jeff Geroge is the only qb he's had who would stick with him, and still make big plays time and again.

......sure, but randy moss is more certain than death or taxes.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Mobile quarterbacks suck.

Except for mobile eagles qb's!! Randall

[alysheba4]

steve young, elway and tarkington were not too shabby

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

WRONG as per usual.

What is wrong?

Just because Ohio State got plunger raped by USC doesn't mean you have to pretend to know as much as I do about football.

And the extent that I follow pro football is to watch as many Ravens and Moss games as a I can.

The extent that I follow college football is to read scout reports on new recruits and watch maybe 4 games a year.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

What is wrong?

Just because Ohio State got plunger raped by USC doesn't mean you have to pretend to know as much as I do about football.

And the extent that I follow pro football is to watch as many Ravens and Moss games as a I can.

The extent that I follow college football is to read scout reports on new recruits and watch maybe 4 games a year.

I'm going to say it this way:


Moss needed the Pats a LOT more than they needed him.

After all ...they had won 2 very recent NFL titles without him...they've yet to win one with him.

Also...you just made the ALL NIMROD team by purporting to sniff that you know more about football than I do without having any idea about how much I do know about football.


It's also known as Costanza Complex.



I KNOW why Ohio State got bull dozed; I knew it would happen before it happened.


Here's something else for you....USC is not a great team....real good ,but not great.


Don't put too much on them for the big dance this year.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Also...you just made the ALL NIMROD team by purporting to sniff that you know more about football than I do without having any idea about how much I do know about football.

Randy Moss is all there is to football. It's borderline unwatchable without him.

If you know him - you know football. You don't know him.

It's Sun Tzu-esque.

[Mortimer]

OK ...knowledge contest over.

That was a real dumb statement.


A receiver is about the last thing you look for when putting a team together.The Raiders don't know that ,either.

[ninetoone]

Moss missed the championship run of the Pats & now he'll likely never get one...kinda like when Mussina went to the Yankees.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

A receiver is about the last thing you look for when putting a team together.The Raiders don't know that ,either.

15-0 with 15 blowout wins the first of his two years for the Herd.

15-1 and a NFL record for points scored his 1st year with the Vikes

16-0 and a NFL record for points scored his 1st year with the Pats.

And you want to make it about the Raiders? He shined individually in each of his first 4 games with the Raiders and quit on them because their O-line couldn't hold blocks for more than 0.2 seconds. That and he wasn't healthy

Might as well as get your team a high draft pick if they thoroughly suck that bad.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

Moss missed the championship run of the Pats & now he'll likely never get one...kinda like when Mussina went to the Yankees.

He will win one this year with Matt Cassel.

[ninetoone]

I wouldn't count on it.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Why?

I got 15/1 on them in an exchange market last week - they should cash it now for me.

Wow.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Wow.

My thoughts exactly.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

My thoughts exactly.

Says another who doesn't know Moss.

The Pats defense got worn out last year by trying to beat everyone big every game. They still answered the bell in the playoffs.

That was by far the best defense a Moss team has had - and with Cassell playing in a ball control Moss offense - the defense this year, old and all, will make them the most likely winner of every game.

The Pats offense will go off once they need to open it up.