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Old 09-09-2008, 05:47 PM
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Tom Brady's 2007 qb rating (117.2) <--- best season ever by an NFL qb.

Matt Cassell's week #1 QB rating (116)

Tom Brady's week #1 QB rating (83.9)


Obviously Brady's 578 pass attempts in '07 was slightly more than Cassell's 18 pass attempts in week #1. But he's managed to about keep that otherworldly pace so far.

I saw Cassell in the preseason - and I thought he was awful.. but that won't matter because guys will be open - huge mismatches will be there to exploit - and when that isn't the case...just fling a deep ball up to Moss and you are just as likely to get a huge play or defensive pass interference as you are an incompletion. Interceptions are VERY rare because the DB's are fixated on getting the best position they can and not playing the ball. Most refs don't call push offs either if Db's don't make an effort for playing the ball.

Basically - the Pats are far from done. Cassell hasn't started since high school and he might need a few weeks to get it together - but that offense will still be one of the three best in the NFL.

The biggest difference between Brady and Cassell in a Moss offense is that Brady is trusted and Cassell isn't.

With Brady, you'll see 18 straight passes called. With Cassell, it was all about managing the game and running the ball a lot. You won't score as many points - but it's a lot easier on the defense.

If Cassell doesn't work at qb - let Moss get under center and run the option.
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:17 PM
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Picked up Cassell in my fantasy league as soon as Brady went down. Since I picked last this is a huge score for me. Imagine the guy that took Brady (5th) in the draft. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

I think he'll produce some big numbers as long as he plays.

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Tom Brady's 2007 qb rating (117.2) <--- best season ever by an NFL qb.

Matt Cassell's week #1 QB rating (116)

Tom Brady's week #1 QB rating (83.9)


Obviously Brady's 578 pass attempts in '07 was slightly more than Cassell's 18 pass attempts in week #1. But he's managed to about keep that otherworldly pace so far.

I saw Cassell in the preseason - and I thought he was awful.. but that won't matter because guys will be open - huge mismatches will be there to exploit - and when that isn't the case...just fling a deep ball up to Moss and you are just as likely to get a huge play or defensive pass interference as you are an incompletion. Interceptions are VERY rare because the DB's are fixated on getting the best position they can and not playing the ball. Most refs don't call push offs either if Db's don't make an effort for playing the ball.

Basically - the Pats are far from done. Cassell hasn't started since high school and he might need a few weeks to get it together - but that offense will still be one of the three best in the NFL.

The biggest difference between Brady and Cassell in a Moss offense is that Brady is trusted and Cassell isn't.

With Brady, you'll see 18 straight passes called. With Cassell, it was all about managing the game and running the ball a lot. You won't score as many points - but it's a lot easier on the defense.

If Cassell doesn't work at qb - let Moss get under center and run the option.
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:09 AM
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After Matt Cassell is finished this year - NFL scouts will start viewing starting qb expierience at the Collegiate level as a bad thing.

Expect scouts to start scouring supermarkets, 7-11's, and car dealerships to find good ole high school qb's who never got a shot in college or at college.

I backed up Mike Glass on a 7th Grade Football team that went 6-0 and won by a 15 point or so average margin of victory. I believe he made it as a linebacker at California University of Pennsylvania.

If a coach was really clever - they'd take a flyer on me as an undrafted free agent.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:50 AM
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After Matt Cassell is finished this year - NFL scouts will start viewing starting qb expierience at the Collegiate level as a bad thing.

Expect scouts to start scouring supermarkets, 7-11's, and car dealerships to find good ole high school qb's who never got a shot in college or at college.

I backed up Mike Glass on a 7th Grade Football team that went 6-0 and won by a 15 point or so average margin of victory. I believe he made it as a linebacker at California University of Pennsylvania.

If a coach was really clever - they'd take a flyer on me as an undrafted free agent.

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Wishes he was the force in 7th grade football that I was.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:41 PM
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Wishes he was the force in 7th grade football that I was.

Dude...I was so small in 7th grade, I could have still play pee-wee league.
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Dude...I am so small, I could still play pee-wee league.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:52 PM
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Wow...that took about 45 minutes longer than I thought before someone would do that

hope you and the girls are well
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:31 PM
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Wow...that took about 45 minutes longer than I thought before someone would do that

hope you and the girls are well
Just got home from open house at their school or I would've got to it sooner.

They are doing great thanks for asking.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:37 PM
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Just got home from open house at their school or I would've got to it sooner.

They are doing great thanks for asking.

Good to hear. Give em all my best.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:43 PM
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Good to hear. Give em all my best.
He most certainly will not.
Keep the daughters away.
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Moss led Randall Cunningham to an MVP and the Vikings scored the most points in league history. Moss led Daunte Culpepper to one of the statistically finest seasons in league history and first-team all league. Moss led Brady, a sure first ballot hall of famer already, to arguably the finest season ever for a qb and his first MVP award and the Pats broke the Vikings scoring record. Now, I'm not saying this guy is anywhere near the calibur of those guys or that he'll come anywhere near achieving what they did. But with Moss there, he's got a serious weapon at his disposal and if he's at least good, the Pats will be ok. They don't need him to be great. I still think they win the division at the very least.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:09 AM
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Moss = Black Jesus
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Moss = Black Jesus
Moss=black chuck norris
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:00 AM
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Randy Moss doesn't do push ups....he pushes down the earth.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:07 AM
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Randy Moss doesn't do push ups....he pushes down the earth.
Randy Moss once played 18 holes of golf using a 12 inch strip of rebar and a sun dried tomato. He shot a 54.
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Randy Moss doesn't do push ups....he pushes down the earth.
When Randy Moss excersises, the machine gets stronger.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:26 AM
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When Randy Moss excersises, the machine gets stronger.
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:47 PM
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Welker is gonna clearly make this Cassel kid an All-Pro QB
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Your boy Moss really had a hell of a game today. How many more weeks until he quits on Cassel? Cornrowed p ussy.
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