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Old 04-08-2009, 10:43 AM
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Default 4/11 (KEE): Blue Grass; Jenny Wiley; Commonweath; Shakertown

6th (3:40) Shakertown S. (G3)

5 1/2 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Hellvelyn (GB) Garcia Alan 118 LA
2 Tenkiller Lake Castanon J L 118 L
3 Hewitts Desormeaux K J 118 LA
4 Mr. Nightlinger Theriot H J II 118 L
5 Cannonball Douglas R R 118 L
6 Due Date Bridgmohan S X 118 LA
7 Rollers Prado E S 118 LA
8 Fort Prado Leparoux J R 118 LA
9 Chamberlain Bridge Gomez G K 121 L
10 Heros Reward Castellano J J 118 LA
11 Incriminate Mena M 118 LA
12 Crowned General Borel C H 118 LA
AE Godolphin Gray Mernagh D 118 L
AE Stradivinsky Albarado R J 118 L



7th (4:11) Commonwealth S. (G2)

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Eternal Star Coa E M 118 L
2 Keep Laughing Garcia Alan 118 LA
3 Silver Edition Douglas R R 118 L
4 My Pal Charlie Leparoux J R 122 LA
5 Success Success Borel C H 118 LA
6 Storm Treasure Bridgmohan S X 118 LA
7 Ravalo Velazquez J R 118 L
8 Rebellion (GB) Prado E S 118 LA



8th (4:42) Jenny Wiley S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 I Lost My Choo Prado E S 119 L
2 Lady Carlock Albarado R J 119 L
3 Forever Together Leparoux J R 123 LA
4 Ballymore Lady Desormeaux K J 119 LA
5 Rustic Flame (IRE) Lanerie C J 117 LA
6 Kiss With a Twist Mena M 117 LA
7 Backseat Rhythm Coa E M 119 LA
8 Rutherienne Garcia Alan 117 L
9 Visit (GB) Gomez G K 117 LA



9th (5:15) Toyota Blue Grass S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Patena Albarado R J 123 L (10-1)
2 Join in the Dance Velazquez J R 123 LA (10-1)
3 Theregoesjojo Borel C H 123 LA (7-2)
4 Cliffy's Future Castanon J L 123 LA (20-1)
5 Mafaaz (GB) Hills R 123 (12-1)
6 Terrain Leparoux J R 123 LA (6-1)
7 Loch Dubh Theriot H J II 123 Blk-On LA (50-1)
8 General Quarters Coa E M 123 L (15-1)
9 Charitable Man Garcia Alan 123 LA (4-1)
10 Hold Me Back Desormeaux K J 123 LA (3-1)
11 Massone Gomez G K 123 L (12-1)

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Old 04-08-2009, 11:33 AM
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1. Patena (10-1)
2. Join In The Dance (10-1)
3. Theregoesjojo (7-2)
4. Cliffy's Future (20-1)
5. Mafaaz (12-1)
6. Terrain (6-1)
7. Lock Dubh (50-1)
8. General Quarters (15-1)
9. Charitable Man (4-1)
10. Hold Me Back (3-1)
11. Massone (12-1)

This race makes me think of 2008.
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Old 04-08-2009, 11:52 AM
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Interesting ML on Charitable Man. It feels like he'll end up being the favorite. I know he was very good last year. But how can you take such a short price on a horse trying 2 turns and a new surface for the first time, while making his first start in 6 months?
simple. you can't!
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:38 PM
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How far does Mafaaz win by?

Or how about, what denotes a decent enough performance here to take a shot at the big one!?
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:41 PM
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The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:50 PM
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The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.
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Old 04-09-2009, 11:52 AM
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The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.
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Old 04-09-2009, 03:23 PM
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The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.

is he owned by paul reddam?
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Old 04-09-2009, 05:20 PM
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The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.
I totally agree with you. I am amazed that Charitable Man has been able to work steadily since he's been back without missing a single work. That said you never know which is the excitement of this sport. I just can't imagine him finishing better than 5th or 6th. But I am rooting for him.
Perhaps a Preakness run may be more in the offing which is in 5 weeks. There is some sense that horses recover a bit quicker off the poly but, as Kiaran said on Byk's show, if he pulls this off they should bronze him in the infield. He's a good horseman, he knows CM's potential as well as the difficulty inherent in what he is trying to do.
And please say on some media outlet that Charitable Man doesn't belong in the race. I've heard you say that a couple of times with Kiaran's horses at A and it seems like they run alot harder.

That said, who do you like? I find it incredibly difficult to pull these horses apart and come to a conclusion that doesn't include 6 of them.
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:46 AM
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The very idea that Charitable Man is even running in this race, given the situation, seems absurd to me. Let's see, a 2YO that was able to run two races before getting injured, and hasn't run in seven months, is now being asked to go 1 1/8 miles....with his eye on a 20 horse field at 1 1/4 miles in three weeks. Go baby go.
Doug O'Neill was quoted as saying this is a very stupid plan.
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Old 04-09-2009, 05:23 PM
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Interesting ML on Charitable Man. It feels like he'll end up being the favorite. I know he was very good last year. But how can you take such a short price on a horse trying 2 turns and a new surface for the first time, while making his first start in 6 months?
I really can't believe he'll get bet down that much. There is too much that he will have to overcome here. I wonder how they put that ML together?
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This is pretty neat, on the Blue Grass Stakes website you can see all of the charts dating back to 1937.

http://ww2.keeneland.com/bluegrassst...px?Page=Charts
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