Derby Graded Earnings & PP's (UPDATED THRU TODAY)

[Kasept]

4/17 (KEE): G2 Coolmore Lexington Stakes ($300k)

1. $180k
2. $60k
3. $30k
4. $15k

Chief Counsel
Connemara
Distorted Dave
Drosselmeyer
Exhi
Game on Dude
Kettle River
Lonesome Street
Nordic Truce*
Quiet All American


Derby Contenders PP's


1 Lookin At Lucky $1,480,000
2 Noble's Promise $738,000
3 Rule $645,000
4 Sidney's Candy $630,000
T-5 Eskendereya $600,000
T-5 Line of David $600,000
7 Mission Impazible $473,434
8 Ice Box $457,500
9 Stately Victor $450,000
10 Endorsement $400,000

11 Conveyance $386,000
12 American Lion $378,000
13 Dublin $373,208
14 Super Saver $363,832
15 Discreetly Mine $355,000
16 Dean’s Kitten $326,475
17 Interactif $292,950
18 Awesome Act $285,000
19 Paddy O'Prado $250,950
20 Homeboykris (g) $250,500


21 Uh Oh Bango $237,952
22 Jackson Bend $230,000
23 Backtalk $222,566
24 Aikenite $221,750
25 Make Music for Me $218,750
26 Odysseus $183,750
27 Setsuko $180,000
28 A Little Warm $180,000
29 Pleasant Prince $166,250
30 Tempted to Tapit (g) $156,000

28 Caracortado (g) $153,000
29 Yawanna Twist $147,000
32 Northern Giant $147,000
30 Connemara $138,500 LEXINGTON

31 Schoolyard Dreams $137,500
36 Pulsion $100,000

34 Drosselmeyer $94,500 LEXINGTON
35 Alphie's Bet $90,000

37 Nordic Truce LEXINGTON
38 Ibboyee $45,000
39 Peppi Knows $41,000
40 Turf Melody $38,857

41 Lentenor $37,500
42 Nacho Friend $32,500
43 Uptowncharlybrown $29,000
44 Gleam of Hope $22,650
45 First Dude $97,500
46 Citrus Kid $21,000
Codoy $15,000
47 Letsgetitonmon $12,700
48 Soaring Empire $11,476
49 Prizefighting $10,523
50 Outlaw Man $14,000

51 Tiz Chrome $9,000
52 Middle of the Nite $6,000
53 Doubles Partner $5,000
54 Indian Firewater $2,000
55 Wow Wow Wow $1,000

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Game On Dude LEXINGTON
Kettle River LEXINGTON
Quiet All American LEXINGTON

[RockHardTen1985]

So Todd has 5 of top 20 not including the filly, and 2 more in the top 25 and many would aruge those are his top 2.... He could run 7 horses in the Derby.

[JerseyJ]

And set a record as he goes 0 for 7 this year.

[nomad]

Thank you, Kasept, for doing all this stuff.

Pletcher is due.

Doesn't mean he'll win.

While trainers count, it's the horse who runs the race.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Shouldn't some of these horses (going to the Santa Anita Derby) have instead tried to beat Dean's Kitten?

[chucklestheclown]

Right now everyone up to 27 is in with what has been publicly stated about injuries and/or skipping the Derby. Has a derby tri ever paid less than triple-digits?

[mbahadur]

With $180K in earnings currently being 19th on this list and horses below the Top 20 (Eskendereya, Super Saver) surely to get more earnings:

(1) I wonder if the connections of Odysseus are rethinking about having the horse's next prep on synthetic.

(2) The winner of the Lexington Stakes may need some previous graded earnings just to make the field.

[Patrick333]

Originally Posted by nomad

Thank you, Kasept, for doing all this stuff.

Ditto from me. Great job Kasept.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

And set a record as he goes 0 for 7 this year.

right after the big horse comes in fourth saturday and does not get in...lol, 0 for 6

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

right after the big horse comes in fourth saturday and does not get in...lol, 0 for 6

If Eskendereya runs fourth to that group of horses he has no business being in the Derby anyway.

NT

[philcski]

Originally Posted by mbahadur

With $180K in earnings currently being 19th on this list and horses below the Top 20 (Eskendereya, Super Saver) surely to get more earnings:

(1) I wonder if the connections of Odysseus are rethinking about having the horse's next prep on synthetic.

(2) The winner of the Lexington Stakes may need some previous graded earnings just to make the field.

This was a question of mine shortly after hearing their plans.

That said- he is currently tied for 13th amongst horses headed to the Derby, so therefore 7 horses have to pass him and there are only 7 possible slots that earn enough to jump over him on a standalone basis (1st in the remaining 6 preps + 2nd in the Ark Derby) so a lot of things would have to happen for him to be excluded.

[mbahadur]

Originally Posted by philcski

This was a question of mine shortly after hearing their plans.

That said- he is currently tied for 13th amongst horses headed to the Derby, so therefore 7 horses have to pass him and there are only 7 possible slots that earn enough to jump over him on a standalone basis (1st in the remaining 6 preps + 2nd in the Ark Derby) so a lot of things would have to happen for him to be excluded.

Steve's current list has Odysseus tied for 17th (not 13th).

[philcski]

Originally Posted by mbahadur

Steve's current list has Odysseus tied for 17th (not 13th).

Correct, however 3 of those are definitely not going (note-"amongst the horses headed to the Derby"). I should have said tied for 14th.

[Scav]

Now this is a list. Great work Steve.

[NTamm1215]

Is A Little Warm going to the Derby? God I hope not.

NT

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Is A Little Warm going to the Derby? God I hope not.

NT

I thought they sounded hopeful. Like the LA Derby was a foundation building effort for the KY Derby.

[Duvalier]

Thanks Steve for all the work you put into getting this list together. Really helps simplify the whole graded earnings needed to make the Derby.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by philcski

Correct, however 3 of those are definitely not going (note-"amongst the horses headed to the Derby"). I should have said tied for 14th.

Phil

Doesn't it seem a bit late for a last prep 2 weeks before the derby. Isn't the more likely scenario that the connections just have this date in their pocket in case everything falls against them and they wind up needing to finish 3rd or 4th in the Lex. to make the derby field. After that last effort I gotta believe Odys. needs all the recovery time he can get.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Phil

Doesn't it seem a bit late for a last prep 2 weeks before the derby. Isn't the more likely scenario that the connections just have this date in their pocket in case everything falls against them and they wind up needing to finish 3rd or 4th in the Lex. to make the derby field. After that last effort I gotta believe Odys. needs all the recovery time he can get.

Considering the fields they've had for the Lexington the last few years, I think most trainers agree with you (I do too, the only really good horse to win the last few years was Showing Up and that was pre-poly and only his 3rd start). They're pointing to the Blue Grass though- which is 3 weeks out.

[Kasept]

$750k BLUE GRASS
1. $450k
2. $150k
3. $75k
4. $37.5k

$1MM ARKANSAS DERBY
1. $600k
2. $200k
3. $100k
4. $50k

$300k LEXINGTON
1. $180k
2. $60k
3. $30k
4. $15k

Updated to reflect 4/3 Derby preps

1 Lookin At Lucky $1,465,000
2 Noble's Promise $708,000 AR DERBY
3 Rule $645,000
4 Sidney's Candy $630,000
5 Eskendereya $600,000
6 Mission Impazible $473,434
7 Ice Box $457,500
X D’ Funnybone $420,000
8 Endorsement $400,000
9 American Lion $387,000
10 Conveyance $370,000

11 Discreetly Mine $355,000
12 Dean’s Kitten $326,475
13 Awesome Act $285,000
14 Dublin $273,208 AR DERBY
15 Interactif $270,450 BLUE GRASS
16 Homeboykris (g) $250,500 BLUE GRASS
17 Jackson Bend $230,000
18 Backtalk $222,566
19 Aikenite $218,000 BLUE GRASS
20 Make Music for Me $215,000 BLUE GRASS

X Mendip $200,000
X Radiohead (GB) $196,332
21 Uh Oh Bango $190,000 AR DERBY
22 Odysseus $180,000 BLUE GRASS
23 Setsuko $180,000
24 A Little Warm $180,000
25 Super Saver $163,832 AR DERBY
26 Pleasant Prince $162,500
27 Tempted to Tapit (g) $156,000
28 Yawanna Twist $150,000
29 Caracortado (g) $145,500
30 Connemara $138,500

31 Schoolyard Dreams $137,500
32 Northern Giant $127,000
33 Paddy O'Prado $100,950 BLUE GRASS
34 Drosselmeyer $97,500
35 Alphie's Bet $90,000
36 Pulsion $80,000 AR DERBY
37 The Program $68,000
38 Ron the Greek $63,000
39 Who’s Up $60,000
40 Cardiff Giant (g) $54,000

41 Frozen Power (Ire) $50,000
42 Ibboyee $45,000
43 Peppi Knows $41,000
44 Turf Melody $38,857
45 Lentenor $37,500
46 Classical Slew $33,000
47 Nacho Friend $32,500
48 Dave in Dixie $30,000
49 Uptowncharlybrown $29,000
50 Stay Put $28,500