3/11-13 (CD): Derby Future Pool 2/Oaks Future Pool 1

NTamm1215 · #1 03-09-2011, 12:29 PM

Kentucky Derby Future Wager Pool 2
(No., Horse, Pool 1 odds, Pool 2 Morning-Line Odds)

1. Anthony’s Cross, 45-1, 30-1
2. Archarcharch, 2-1(f), 50-1
3. Astrology, 48-1, 50-1
4. Brethren, 15-1, 15-1
5. Comma to the Top, 90-1, 50-1
6. Dialed In, 8-1, 10-1
7. Elite Alex, 2-1(f), 50-1
8. Gourmet Dinner, 85-1, 30-1
9. J.P.’s Gusto, 79-1, 50-1
10. Jaycito, 21-1, 20-1
11. Machen, 49-1, 50-1
12. Mucho Macho Man, 30-1, 20-1
13. Rogue Romance, 34-1, 30-1
14. Runflatout, 2-1(f), 50-1
15. Santiva, 37-1, 30-1
16. Silver Medallion, 66-1, 50-1
17. Soldat, 18-1, 8-1
18. Stay Thirsty, 40-1, 20-1
19. Sway Away 2-1(f), 15-1
20. Sweet Ducky, 79-1, 50-1
21. The Factor, 25-1, 10-1
22. To Honor and Serve, 10-1, 15-1
23. Uncle Mo, 7-2, 7-2
24. All others (field), 2-1, 3-1
(f) – Field entry in Pool 1

Kentucky Oaks Future Wager
(No., Horse, Morning-Line Odds)

1. A Z Warrior, 15-1
2. Big Tiz, 20-1
3. Bouquet Booth, 20-1
4. Dancinginherdreams, 10-1
5. Delightful Mary, 15-1
6. Harlan’s Ruby, 20-1
7. Holy Heavens, 50-1
8. Inglorious, 30-1
9. It’s Tricky, 10-1
10. Joyful Victory, 20-1
11. Kathmanblu, 12-1
12. Mildly Offensive, 50-1
13. Miss Smarty Pants, 50-1
14. Oh Carole, 50-1
15. Pomeroys Pistol, 30-1
16. R Heat Lightning, 8-1
17. Rigoletta, 30-1
18. Royal Delta, 20-1
19. Salty Strike, 30-1
20. Snow Fall, 50-1
21. Summer Soiree, 50-1
22. Wyomia, 50-1
23. Zazu, 8-1
24. All others (field), 5-2

cakes44 · #2 03-09-2011, 12:40 PM

I like that Inglorious horse. Not sure if she can win the Oaks or not, but she's obviously not far off Kathmanblu. Anyone know where she's going next?

hockey2315 · #3 03-09-2011, 01:00 PM

Am I crazy to think It's Tricky might be an overlay at 10-1?

rpncaine · #4 03-09-2011, 01:08 PM

I love HER at that price...think she'll come down a little though.

declansharbor · #5 03-09-2011, 01:28 PM

He's a she.

I'm hoping Sway Away floats up to a bettable price. I've seen people take worse stabs. I just hope he's more than a closing sprinter.

Dahoss · #6 03-09-2011, 02:10 PM

I might have to bet a few bucks on Archarcharch.

Mike · #7 03-09-2011, 02:48 PM

Astrology, at 50-1, is the only play. He won't be in the Rebel until the 19th

hockey2315 · #8 03-09-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

I might have to bet a few bucks on Archarcharch.

Ya 50-1 is way off

The Indomitable DrugS · #9 03-09-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Ya 50-1 is way off

I don't know about that ... unless Uncle Mo bombs - he will be about that price...maybe higher

Bretheren is running against pure dogsh!t at Tampa.

I suppose what I'd want to see in terms of this bet are ....

1.) An underwhelming and unimpressive easy victory by Uncle Mo - similar to the one War Pass had in his 3yo debut.

2.) Bretheren wins handily again

If that happens - I'll be paying close attention to the odds in the final 15 minutes trying to scoop up an overlay or even possibly the best couple of overlays.

Round Pen · #10 03-09-2011, 04:16 PM

Hmmm I really Think John Oxley(owner) will win the Ky Oaks this Year and I believe his best 3 year old filly is not on the list Yet...

Habersham000 · #11 03-09-2011, 04:28 PM

I really like the price on Inglorious, hope she stays around the 30-1 morning line.

RockHardTen1985 · #12 03-09-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Ya 50-1 is way off

Why? He seems slow and unlikely to me.

Dahoss · #13 03-09-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Why? He seems slow and unlikely to me.

LOL....

freddymo · #14 03-09-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

LOL....

lock it up

Dahoss · #15 03-09-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

lock it up

He's just trolling, but it's funny to me when someone calls a horse that is 50-1 ML, for a race 2 months out, slow and unlikely.

Who is likely right now?

freddymo · #16 03-09-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

He's just trolling, but it's funny to me when someone calls a horse that is 50-1 ML, for a race 2 months out, slow and unlikely.

Who is likely right now?

Just people laying seeds for glory without consequence..Buy a lottery ticket and pray.. Why not I do

#17 03-09-2011, 08:02 PM

I am taking Royal Delta in the Oaks at 20-1.

NTamm1215 · #18 03-09-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by arizonadave

I am taking Royal Delta in the Oaks at 20-1.

I'm sure you know she's entered, but Make sure you watch her run at Tampa first.

blackthroatedwind · #19 03-09-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Am I crazy to think It's Tricky might be an overlay at 10-1?

Yes. Plus, she will likely be closer to 20:1.

I have a hard time believing she will be less than 2:1 in the FL Oaks ( ex-Bonnie Miss ) vs R Heat Lightning...and maybe higher. Isn't that a much better raceday play than 10:1ish on her for the Oaks now?

Then again, considering the National Handicapper for DRF doesn't even consider her one of the 10 best 3YO fillies, shouldn't she be like 50:1?

The Indomitable DrugS · #20 03-09-2011, 08:53 PM

The Oaks picture is a much bigger mess than the Derby picture imo.

http://www1.drf.com/images/pdf/Oaks_FuturePool_2.pdf

#20 and #21 are first-crop War Fronts like Soldat and The Factor ... he's getting front-end speed routers. I almost fell down when I glanced at his win percentage with routers a few weeks ago ... than my eyes moved left and I saw the sample size wasn't sh!t.

I like how the Larry Jones trained one has run five Beyers of 47 or less in seven races .. Eight Belles had a physcotic form like that early on. Probably the only reason they included her in this bet.