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RockHardTen1985 · #21 10-21-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

He clearly is not our best 3yo turf horse.

Or, better put, it's not clear at all he's our best 3yo turf horse.

LOLOLOL... I hate POP, been clear about it. Who is even close to him?

#22 10-21-2010, 11:11 PM

no One. Nunya First Said It Dur

Indian Charlie · #23 10-21-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

LOLOLOL... I hate POP, been clear about it. Who is even close to him?

Potentially, either of the two Sadler candy horses.

Certainly at 9f or less, Sidney's Candy would destroy Ploddy so Slowdo.

Dahoss · #24 10-21-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Potentially, either of the two Sadler candy horses.

Certainly at 9f or less, Sidney's Candy would destroy Ploddy so Slowdo.

I don't think Paddy O Prado is much either. But, at the same time, I'm sort of surprised at how Sidney's Candy has become such a revered turf horse based on one race where he beat nothing.

I know you aren't really saying it, but I've seen it on boards for the last few weeks. I've even seen some that like him in the Mile. I'd like to see him run another good race on turf before crowning him yet and going into the mile without a prep doesn't bode well for him IMO.

Indian Charlie · #25 10-22-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

I don't think Paddy O Prado is much either. But, at the same time, I'm sort of surprised at how Sidney's Candy has become such a revered turf horse based on one race where he beat nothing.

I know you aren't really saying it, but I've seen it on boards for the last few weeks. I've even seen some that like him in the Mile. I'd like to see him run another good race on turf before crowning him yet and going into the mile without a prep doesn't bode well for him IMO.

I'm just saying that it really isn't much of a stretch to say that SC might be the better turf horse. Yeah, he beat nothing, but you can say that about Ploddy el Slowmo too.

And, unlike with el Slowmo, SC might be an awesome horse on turf. He certainly has more upside to him.

I agree on the lack of prep. Something smells fishy there.

The mile is by miles the most interesting race on the card.

The Indomitable DrugS · #26 10-22-2010, 05:37 AM

Paddy O' Prado is a very respectable horse as far as 3yo North American turf males go relative to what we've seen in that division since the days of Kitten's Joy and Artie Schiller.

knickslions2 · #27 10-22-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I know, that 1 race makes him good. Kinda like MTB good, right?

Look deeper my friend

randallscott35 · #28 10-22-2010, 07:39 AM

Since I'm not impressed with the Classic division I think this is the right decision.

hockey2315 · #29 10-22-2010, 07:44 AM

Pretty sure they're paying more for SC than was offered for Paddy. . . Not sure either are worth it.

Hossy - I'm probably one of the people you had in mind w/ the SC thing. It's not that I think he's a good bet in the mile (he can't super high, right?), but the chance of him freaking or just being that good and beating the chalk if she's off her game seems more likely than Paco Boy beating her. Have to do more homework, though.

Sightseek · #30 10-22-2010, 08:55 AM

I actually like the decision.

tjfla · #31 10-22-2010, 08:56 AM

I liked the part that said he WILL have a 4 yr old campaign.

Anyone wanna take a stab at his odds?

Smooth Operator · #32 10-22-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Paddy O' Prado is a very respectable horse as far as 3yo North American turf males go relative to what we've seen in that division since the days of Kitten's Joy and Artie Schiller.

Disgraceful that this country can't consistently produce turfers which can compete with the Euros

We're hell at churning out distance-challenged dirt speedballs, tho.............

NTamm1215 · #33 10-22-2010, 09:47 AM

There are about 8-9 probables in the Breeders' Cup Turf. Does Paddy O' Prado have a very good chance against horses like Behkabad or Workforce? Not really, but to say that he has "no chance" or doesn't stack up even in a small way is foolish.

His Preakness is a much better indication of his dirt ability than his Derby in my opinion and this decision is foolish. I'll be absolutely stunned if he's in the superfecta.

randallscott35 · #34 10-22-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

There are about 8-9 probables in the Breeders' Cup Turf. Does Paddy O' Prado have a very good chance against horses like Behkabad or Workforce? Not really, but to say that he has "no chance" or doesn't stack up even in a small way is foolish.

His Preakness is a much better indication of his dirt ability than his Derby in my opinion and this decision is foolish. I'll be absolutely stunned if he's in the superfecta.

5 million reasons, I agree he has no chance but damned if the Classic doesn't look like a Grade 2 this year.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #35 10-22-2010, 10:05 AM

top royelle in her day would crush them all

geeker2 · #36 10-22-2010, 10:12 AM

Dale was on ATR

Sounded like he would be happy with a 2nd or 3rd as it would help his post racing career. He didn't sound like 1st was that realistic. Said he thought winning the Turf race would not do that much for his stallion fees...but a good effort in the Classic would.

randallscott35 · #37 10-22-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by geeker2

Dale was on ATR

Sounded like he would be happy with a 2nd or 3rd as it would help his post racing career. He didn't sound like 1st was that realistic. Said he thought winning the Turf race would not do that much for his stallion fees...but a good effort in the Classic would.

Not unlike his handshake deal with Frankel at Lonestar to follow Zapper around the track and collect for second.