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Old 09-09-2008, 04:47 PM
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Tom Brady's 2007 qb rating (117.2) <--- best season ever by an NFL qb.

Matt Cassell's week #1 QB rating (116)

Tom Brady's week #1 QB rating (83.9)


Obviously Brady's 578 pass attempts in '07 was slightly more than Cassell's 18 pass attempts in week #1. But he's managed to about keep that otherworldly pace so far.

I saw Cassell in the preseason - and I thought he was awful.. but that won't matter because guys will be open - huge mismatches will be there to exploit - and when that isn't the case...just fling a deep ball up to Moss and you are just as likely to get a huge play or defensive pass interference as you are an incompletion. Interceptions are VERY rare because the DB's are fixated on getting the best position they can and not playing the ball. Most refs don't call push offs either if Db's don't make an effort for playing the ball.

Basically - the Pats are far from done. Cassell hasn't started since high school and he might need a few weeks to get it together - but that offense will still be one of the three best in the NFL.

The biggest difference between Brady and Cassell in a Moss offense is that Brady is trusted and Cassell isn't.

With Brady, you'll see 18 straight passes called. With Cassell, it was all about managing the game and running the ball a lot. You won't score as many points - but it's a lot easier on the defense.

If Cassell doesn't work at qb - let Moss get under center and run the option.
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:17 PM
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Picked up Cassell in my fantasy league as soon as Brady went down. Since I picked last this is a huge score for me. Imagine the guy that took Brady (5th) in the draft. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

I think he'll produce some big numbers as long as he plays.

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Tom Brady's 2007 qb rating (117.2) <--- best season ever by an NFL qb.

Matt Cassell's week #1 QB rating (116)

Tom Brady's week #1 QB rating (83.9)


Obviously Brady's 578 pass attempts in '07 was slightly more than Cassell's 18 pass attempts in week #1. But he's managed to about keep that otherworldly pace so far.

I saw Cassell in the preseason - and I thought he was awful.. but that won't matter because guys will be open - huge mismatches will be there to exploit - and when that isn't the case...just fling a deep ball up to Moss and you are just as likely to get a huge play or defensive pass interference as you are an incompletion. Interceptions are VERY rare because the DB's are fixated on getting the best position they can and not playing the ball. Most refs don't call push offs either if Db's don't make an effort for playing the ball.

Basically - the Pats are far from done. Cassell hasn't started since high school and he might need a few weeks to get it together - but that offense will still be one of the three best in the NFL.

The biggest difference between Brady and Cassell in a Moss offense is that Brady is trusted and Cassell isn't.

With Brady, you'll see 18 straight passes called. With Cassell, it was all about managing the game and running the ball a lot. You won't score as many points - but it's a lot easier on the defense.

If Cassell doesn't work at qb - let Moss get under center and run the option.
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Old 09-10-2008, 02:09 AM
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After Matt Cassell is finished this year - NFL scouts will start viewing starting qb expierience at the Collegiate level as a bad thing.

Expect scouts to start scouring supermarkets, 7-11's, and car dealerships to find good ole high school qb's who never got a shot in college or at college.

I backed up Mike Glass on a 7th Grade Football team that went 6-0 and won by a 15 point or so average margin of victory. I believe he made it as a linebacker at California University of Pennsylvania.

If a coach was really clever - they'd take a flyer on me as an undrafted free agent.
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After Matt Cassell is finished this year - NFL scouts will start viewing starting qb expierience at the Collegiate level as a bad thing.

Expect scouts to start scouring supermarkets, 7-11's, and car dealerships to find good ole high school qb's who never got a shot in college or at college.

I backed up Mike Glass on a 7th Grade Football team that went 6-0 and won by a 15 point or so average margin of victory. I believe he made it as a linebacker at California University of Pennsylvania.

If a coach was really clever - they'd take a flyer on me as an undrafted free agent.

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Wishes he was the force in 7th grade football that I was.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:41 PM
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Wishes he was the force in 7th grade football that I was.

Dude...I was so small in 7th grade, I could have still play pee-wee league.
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Old 09-14-2008, 03:47 PM
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Welker is gonna clearly make this Cassel kid an All-Pro QB
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Your boy Moss really had a hell of a game today. How many more weeks until he quits on Cassel? Cornrowed p ussy.
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Your boy Moss really had a hell of a game today. How many more weeks until he quits on Cassel? Cornrowed p ussy.

LOL..

Joe, how long before he starts begging for Dante to come out of retirement??
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:03 PM
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LOL..

Joe, how long before he starts begging for Dante to come out of retirement??
Duante would have tried to force the ball - and would have fumbled away about two of the sacks.

Tarvais Jackson is a much better qb than Culpepper ever was.
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LOL, Ruger Relle shut down Moss. No ifs ands or buts. Twist it however you want brotha. I don't really do too many funerals but I gotta go to his.
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Duante would have tried to force the ball - and would have fumbled away about two of the sacks.

Tarvais Jackson is a much better qb than Culpepper ever was.


There is no way to prove this point either way, but that statement is a stretch even for the President of the Culpepper Sucks fan club
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Duante would have tried to force the ball - and would have fumbled away about two of the sacks.

Tarvais Jackson is a much better qb than Culpepper ever was.
Jackson just benched for Gus Frerotte

meant as an fyi, not doing the comparison thing
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Old 09-14-2008, 06:31 PM
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Your boy Moss really had a hell of a game today. How many more weeks until he quits on Cassel? Cornrowed p ussy.
Moss basically invisible, yet they still couldn't beat the Pats. Penalties were a bit one sided, that offensive pass interference call was iffy, but they just made too many mistakes.The good new is Super Bowls are not won in week 2.
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Moss basically invisible, yet they still couldn't beat the Pats. Penalties were a bit one sided, that offensive pass interference call was iffy, but they just made too many mistakes.The good new is Super Bowls are not won in week 2.
1 penalty for 5 yards on the Pats. O-Line didn't protect well enough today either. Like you said, it's still early. Hats off to the cheaters this week, but I think we'll only get better from here.

And that's Ruger Relle Revis MAKING Moss invisible. Soon enough, people will have to take notice that #24 can play.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:02 PM
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Your boy Moss really had a hell of a game today. How many more weeks until he quits on Cassel? Cornrowed p ussy.
Moss did fine and has never cared about stats.

Cassell missed him for a Touchdown on one play - big deal - the game was in hand.

The Jets messed up doubling Moss virtually every play - he missed practice all week and was playing hurt.

The underneath stuff was open all game and Cassell took care of the wide open high percentage passes I could have made.

The Pats led wire-to-wire and won in hand with nursing the lead throughout. People like you who need to see fantasy football stats to think someone played well - wait until the Patriots fall behind in a game early - than you will see them.

When you have a qb making his first lifetime start - and Moss playing hurt - you don't start firing deep balls and forcing into double coverage when guys are open underneath and you are ahead.
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[quote=The Indomitable DrugS]Moss did fine and has never cared about stats.
WHAT???????
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People like you who need to see fantasy football stats to think someone played well - wait until the Patriots fall behind in a game early - than you will see them.
Hmmm.. Pretty sure they've played from behind nearly all game, and your love has 4 catches for 25 yards. Nice analysis.
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