Rags to Riches/Belmont try? - Page 2

hockey2315 · #21 05-02-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Dreaming of Anna and Mistical Plan will most likely be on or near the lead. But there is no need to take my word for it, because the PPs are free on DRF.com this week.
Here you go: http://www.drf.com/row/pps/07kentuckyoaks.pdf
Personally I think this race is pretty wide open. I think Rags is a bit overrated, and there are 3 or 4 others here that wouldn't surprise me at all.

Thanks. . . I'll be using Mistical Plan, Cotton Blossom, and Dreaming of Anna in my Derby doubles. . .

slotdirt · #22 05-02-2007, 02:52 PM

Anybody see the Aegon Turf entries? Those characters certainly deserve themselves a Breeders Cup race. Mighty Beau and Sgt. Bert!

Cannon Shell · #23 05-03-2007, 03:00 PM

Rags to riches will be 4/5

She is a better bet at 4/5 than Curlin is at 7/2

whorstman · #24 05-03-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

You know, are her speed figures really that good? This field looks more competitive than I initially thought...

I totally agree, there seems to be several in here that can challenge her. I'm going to try and beat her myself.

Cannon Shell · #25 05-03-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by whorstman

I'm going to try and beat her myself.

There is no way you are fast enough

zippyneedsawin · #26 05-03-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is no way you are fast enough

LOL!! I bet he's carrying more weight too!!

Cajungator26 · #27 05-03-2007, 03:13 PM

I don't know if anyone (including whorstman) is going to beat Rags, but I will be using Rags, Cotton Blossom, Octave, High Heels and Dreaming of Anna. I think Pletcher has this Oaks in the bag.

randallscott35 · #28 05-03-2007, 03:48 PM

I think she will win and I wouldn't bet her. Not a good enough price. I will sit out.

smuthg · #29 05-03-2007, 04:07 PM

I was at Oaklawn for the Fantasy; Cotton Blossom and Cash Included didn't have a chance... Rags maybe a superstar, but I wouldn't snooze on High Heels.

whorstman · #30 05-03-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is no way you are fast enough

Oh, you havn't seen me in the club! I can flat stalk some fillies!

ArlJim78 · #31 05-03-2007, 04:47 PM

I think it's kinda foolish to try to beat Rags here. Anything can happen but she is quite the beast.

#32 05-03-2007, 04:59 PM

I can see, just as the whole world does, how veryone thinks Rags to Riches is. I've seen two of her races, yet those races were her's before they started. They set up perfect for her. I can't see her as dominating this field, in fact I believe her stable mate is going to beat her. Cotton Blossom is going to run huge. She's sitting on a big one, her Oaklawn race was extremely good. Johnny V proved once again he's a slightly above average jockey, not one of the best.... Dreaming of Anna and Mistical Plan also have big chances, as long as they decide not to tear each other to pieces on the front, this race is paceless. Rags doesn't have chumps to run by this time around. These 3 gals will definitely make her work for it.

ArlJim78 · #33 05-03-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jdm

I can see, just as the whole world does, how veryone thinks Rags to Riches is. I've seen two of her races, yet those races were her's before they started. They set up perfect for her. I can't see her as dominating this field, in fact I believe her stable mate is going to beat her. Cotton Blossom is going to run huge. She's sitting on a big one, her Oaklawn race was extremely good. Johnny V proved once again he's a slightly above average jockey, not one of the best.... Dreaming of Anna and Mistical Plan also have big chances, as long as they decide not to tear each other to pieces on the front, this race is paceless. Rags doesn't have chumps to run by this time around. These 3 gals will definitely make her work for it.

huh? are you serious? I thinking you're dreaming.
Can you explain what set-up so well in RTR's races, so much so that the races were hers before they started? How is 5wide on both turns a great set-up?

#34 05-03-2007, 06:44 PM

I hear she's amazing. So i'm expecting her to run 5th.

herkhorse · #35 05-04-2007, 07:24 AM

I may be nuts but I like swift temper to hit the board or at least the super

ddthetide · #36 05-04-2007, 08:04 AM

looks like wet track today. think i'll change my picks abit.
i'll use High Again, won at the distance and on a wet track. Swift Temper 4th at the distance and won on a wet track.
i'll use them with Octave and Cash Included.

#37 05-04-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

huh? are you serious? I thinking you're dreaming.
Can you explain what set-up so well in RTR's races, so much so that the races were hers before they started? How is 5wide on both turns a great set-up?

pace collapsed inside her and horses weren't very talented.

zippyneedsawin · #38 05-04-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jdm

pace collapsed inside her and horses weren't very talented.

I can appreciate the effort to beat a big favorite, but the reality is that this filly lays over the field and will only lose if Gomez blows it.

miraja2 · #39 05-04-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

I think this race is pretty wide open. I think Rags is a bit overrated, and there are 3 or 4 others here that wouldn't surprise me at all.

More top-notch advice from yours truly.

#40 05-04-2007, 05:18 PM

I think Garrett Gomez was riding a very good horse and did a very good job keeping her out of trouble while not losing ground. Very well done all the way around.

And I would have not have bet her either. Do the math. When approximately 33% of the horses at that price win, and you got a big field on a muddy track. No way.