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Old 03-01-2013, 11:15 AM
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Arrow NJ Sports Betting: Six years later, it’s official in New Jersey

http://www.drf.com/news/new-jersey-s...aw-struck-down

A federal judge late on Thursday upheld a challenge to a law authorizing sports betting in New Jersey, siding with a handful of professional sports leagues that said the law violated a federal ban on the practice.

The ruling, by U.S. District Court Judge Michael Shipp, is a setback to the state’s racetracks, which would have been allowed to offer sports betting along with the state’s casinos if the law was upheld. New Jersey is expected to appeal the decision, with the support of Gov. Chris Christie.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:27 AM
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Predictable.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:27 PM
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:34 PM
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Not really a surprise.
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:16 PM
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Christie comes through on Sports Betting; Monmouth, Freehold, ACRC, Meadowlands, Casinos OK'd to take action..

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...2168?cid=bitly

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie issued a directive Monday allowing his state's casinos and racetracks to offer sports betting without fear of criminal or civil liability.

The governor said he took his cue from previous federal court rulings that found that nothing in New Jersey law prohibits the casinos and horse racing tracks from offering sports betting.

His action is likely to be challenged in court by the professional and collegiate sports leagues that fought New Jersey's efforts to overturn a ban on sports betting in all but four states. That effort ended with the U.S. Supreme Court declining to hear the case.


ASBURY PARK PRESS: http://www.app.com/story/news/politi...ting/15290363/
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:39 PM
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Pretty sickening reading this thread and then noticing all of the casino shutdowns since this was posted.

Maybe they can find a buyer for Revel.
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:42 PM
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Christie comes through on Sports Betting; Monmouth, Freehold, ACRC, Meadowlands, Casinos OK'd to take action..

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...2168?cid=bitly

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie issued a directive Monday allowing his state's casinos and racetracks to offer sports betting without fear of criminal or civil liability.

The governor said he took his cue from previous federal court rulings that found that nothing in New Jersey law prohibits the casinos and horse racing tracks from offering sports betting.

His action is likely to be challenged in court by the professional and collegiate sports leagues that fought New Jersey's efforts to overturn a ban on sports betting in all but four states. That effort ended with the U.S. Supreme Court declining to hear the case.


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What are the chances we actually see sports betting in NJ before Congress repeals laws that forbid it? Seems to me just a bunch of hot air
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:37 AM
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Relieing on legalized sports betting for the future.

http://www.wordontheshore.com/monmou...-soon-cms-2866
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:30 AM
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I hope Monmouth realizes what they are getting into. There's quite a few bettors who may just go to sports and not return to racing.
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Old 05-08-2014, 06:20 PM
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So I had a derby party and missed the super by a nose when Wicked Strong nosed the Rat. Most of my non racing friends were shocked that a Super bet could pay 8000 dollars for a modest bet. racing needs to focus on the fact racing provides the big scores and winning 8K betting sports at 110 to win 100 is so much more difficult.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:33 PM
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So I had a derby party and missed the super by a nose when Wicked Strong nosed the Rat. Most of my non racing friends were shocked that a Super bet could pay 8000 dollars for a modest bet. racing needs to focus on the fact racing provides the big scores and winning 8K betting sports at 110 to win 100 is so much more difficult.
I gave a guy I know (an acquaintance, more of a friend of a friend) a 5 horse exacta box which he played for a buck (30.00 outlayed) and came back 170.00

The guy is a sports bettor who has never showed an interest in the track. Absolutely floored that he made 5x his investment- And called me this week to find out if I was playing this weekend - Wants to learn how to handicap horses.

Agree completely - A sports bettor that gets a taste of a big payout will at least show an interest in wanting to learn more -
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:57 PM
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I gave a guy I know (an acquaintance, more of a friend of a friend) a 5 horse exacta box which he played for a buck (30.00 outlayed) and came back 170.00

The guy is a sports bettor who has never showed an interest in the track. Absolutely floored that he made 5x his investment- And called me this week to find out if I was playing this weekend - Wants to learn how to handicap horses.

Agree completely - A sports bettor that gets a taste of a big payout will at least show an interest in wanting to learn more -
He'll like it until he sees some of the weekday cards at a track like GG. Sports betting looks pretty good when you see small fields and a big takeout.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:43 AM
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So I had a derby party and missed the super by a nose when Wicked Strong nosed the Rat. Most of my non racing friends were shocked that a Super bet could pay 8000 dollars for a modest bet. racing needs to focus on the fact racing provides the big scores and winning 8K betting sports at 110 to win 100 is so much more difficult.
So true. Sorry about the near miss - you still did great handicapping to get that close.

I say the same thing - I have no interest in a less than 1:1 odds return.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:45 AM
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When friends of mine want to make a bet (on some other matter) - the sports bettors always say "straight up?"

I reply "I am a horseplayer - you've got to give me odds."
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:03 PM
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@AP: BREAKING: US judge nixes plan to allow sports betting at New Jersey casinos, tracks ; appeal expected.
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:41 PM
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I know you are happy about it.
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:11 AM
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Default NYT: Extensive online gambling feature (Will merge with DFS thread)

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ype=Multimedia
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DFS done in the Silver State...

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/oct...y-fantasy-spo/
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He gloats.

One word to describe Nevada. Chutzpah. Embrace the Federal law that permits sports betting only in Vegas while ignoring the federal law that deems DFS as a game of skill and not gambling. And talk about biting the hand that feeds you DFS has brought in millions in revenue to casinios by holding live championship tournements there and untold millions in additional revenue by those DFS players who migrate to Vegas sportsbooks weekly to follow their teams. But in the no publcity is bad publicity dept, DFS had its biggest week ever last week.
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He gloats.

One word to describe Nevada. Chutzpah. Embrace the Federal law that permits sports betting only in Vegas while ignoring the federal law that deems DFS as a game of skill and not gambling. And talk about biting the hand that feeds you DFS has brought in millions in revenue to casinios by holding live championship tournements there and untold millions in additional revenue by those DFS players who migrate to Vegas sportsbooks weekly to follow their teams. But in the no publcity is bad publicity dept, DFS had its biggest week ever last week.
Chutzpah is a good thing....
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