Honest opinions concerning paying for info here....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

I take a good bit of the blame for helping create this "firestorm' that is selling picks. First, toss out your pre-conceived notions about me and my past. I'll go on the record here and now and leave this alone. I don't like it, at least on this site. Why, one might ask. Because I feel it is not appropriate from a marketing perspective. Let me expand for a moment and that is all -

I have a new site and am rolling it off the shelf. Things are taking off. Many, many new members, and many of those are posting on the forum, i.e., chat room (mind you I am not talking about a new site by me but rather this site). Now, this is my angle -

Joe blow come to find this site and starts reading. Suddenly, he comes upon the "pay for picks / info link. So he jumps aboard. Suddenly, he realizes that the person who is posting this info is also a regular on the forum / chat room on this board. Two possibilities exist at this point -

1 - This new customer (reader / poster) of the board discovers success thru the information that is provided by such individual at a certain dollar amount. All is well and no question word of mouth will do nothing but help propel the board to new levels of success as well as the person who is posting the info for sale.

2 - This is the "potential" problem in my professional opinion. The above new customer (member / poster) shells out the "amount" required to receive the above mentioned information by a certain individual and does not receive the expected results. So, this new customer takes his business someplace else in frustration.

It is a potential no win. This is a great site with so much potential and


it does not need someone who has no people skills via the keyboard to turn away customers

but rather a great forum for folks to discuss what they love and brought them here in the first place, Horse Racing. Mike is very brash on the keyboard and if he wishes to pursue his dream of selling his information I for one hope he does it not at Steve's potential expense.

Only your unbiased opinions and don't let my past posts on here and ESPN cloud your response. I don't want Steve to allow this in one way or the other, either a link or a first person endorsement. Just my thoughts. Yours?

my unbiased opinion is you might want to think about the above in bold before you post any more of your supposed thought provoking, convo starting drivel.

oh, and WHY WOULD ANYONE hold all your previous postings against you? lol yeah, only shows your history, your track record.

turning over a new leaf? you've got a hell of a way to show it!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

Yup, I got caught up in the emotions. Sorry Steve if you read this. Name calling is no longer my game. My fault for responding to those who felt it necessary to attack.

oh great. now the sanctimonious martyr act. oh so wronged 2 mins....

off to bed, hate to leave such excitement! puhhhlease.

[Downthestretch55]

Curt,
Take a deep breath, relax.
The folks that posted responses to your thread said some insightful stuff.
OK..
Take another deep breath, relax.

Nobody is out to "get you".
You "get yourself".

Don't keep putting yourself in these positions...PLEASE.

You only apologize later, again and again.
They responded cause they are showing you some "careing".
It's up to you to help yourself first, before others can possibly help you.

So, take a deep breath, relax.


AND THINK!!! Before the next time you sit down with your keyboard and start typing.

OK????



DTS

[Exceller]

If you were really good at making picks, why would you sell them?

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

agenda - none

topic conversation and debate in a timely fashion today - dead on

problem is I should have known better cause some would rather throw insults my way rather than some good honest conversation

Will someone please escort the rambling gentlemen who has had way toomuch to drink off the premises?
Curt, please go back to AA and get help ok? I'm being very serious. You are a few sandwiches short of picnic these days.

I willl bet we could raise 1 grand easily by offering to ban you if we raised that much.
Curt, get it together or get out. You are embarassing yourself, and all who know you. Put down the beer, and pull up a diet pepsi.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

if you really dont know what you have said and done to the nicest guy in the game....you need to dry out otis.....no one digs your music ..but yourself...thats as nice as i can be.... get help

I picture this guy right now in a Nascar tshirt, marlboro hat, beer in hand, howling at the moon in his backyard right now!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Exceller

If you were really good at making picks, why would you sell them?

Exactly...

[dellinger63]

Eldo,
How many times will you make a last post? Go away already. You remind me of a young version of a painter I know. No one will ask you for all that money you're sitting on, don't worry. Go take care of the babies left at ESPN. A new name and identity? Pathetic

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Exactly...

Curt, Tomorrow when you read and think about the thread you started, you'll find that some are getting tired of it.
Are you tired of it yet?
It's getting old...fast.

Find a program.

[Kasept]

If I need to make a statement on this topic, I'll say that there is no intention or interest in "selling" handicapping information here.

This is simply an expanded version of the Yahoo! Groups version of Derby Trail with a more expansive and responsive Forum...

I plan to have a "DT Store" to sell really nice apparell and quality racing memorabilia, but any significant income generated here will be derived from advertising.

Steve

I say we sell "this is my last post" t shirts!!!!!

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I say we sell "this is my last post" t shirts!!!!!

THAT is a funny line Mikey..

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I say we sell "this is my last post" t shirts!!!!!

got to admit thats a good idea...

Originally Posted by Kasept

THAT is a funny line Mikey..

Im serious, a picture of Otis the drunk at a keyboard above the line "this is my last post" Derbytrail.com It would sell like crazy.

[ArlJim78]

In this case, "this is my last post" simply means..Good Night!

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Im serious, a picture of Otis the drunk at a keyboard above the line "this is my last post" Derbytrail.com It would sell like crazy.

oh man ill buy a few

Hooves I would seriously buy one, Im not kidding.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

id love to see pauliman wear one on hrtv......lmfao.