How Many Points

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The Lakers had a better record than Cleveland without Gasol playing in the WEST. You cant be serious.
Who is watching too much ESPN...?

Chris Paul.

I actually could go with that.
But in the playoffs he finds a diff. world
which is why the Hornets go down 2nd round.

You cant choose MVP on what might happen in the playoffs. The Lakers also have better players at every position except one and are far superior in head coaching dont ya think?

[King Glorious]

I'm absolutely convinced that Pgardn and Stevie Wonder have watched the same number of basketball games.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Lebron does take a lot of outside shots, of course if you watched the games you would know this.

Yes.
This is what I said.
TOO many.
He SHOULD be shooting OVER 50%
with the number of pure athletic bull drive points makes.

I am getting confused as to who watches the games.
I thought I was an addict. I guess you have 5 games going
at once. I cant match that pace. One game at a time.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You cant choose MVP on what might happen in the playoffs. The Lakers also have better players at every position except one and are far superior in head coaching dont ya think?

Of course you cant.

But because it is not regular season,
one gets a better idea of how good a
player really is under pressure. 82 regular games
is way too many to take seriously.

No I think West is much better than Odom as a forward.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Yes.
This is what I said.
TOO many.
He SHOULD be shooting OVER 50%
with the number of pure athletic bull drive points makes.

I am getting confused as to who watches the games.
I thought I was an addict. I guess you have 5 games going
at once. I cant match that pace. One game at a time.

Dont you think that in order to get the lanes to drive you need to keep the defense honest? Dont you think in an 82 game season that getting hammered on his way to the hoop more than he already does would be detremental? Sometimes i think you forget that the NBA is not girls high school games and there are lots of reason why things are done that may not be readily apparent unless you understand this and realize that there is a big picture outside of the game in front of you.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Of course you cant.

But because it is not regular season,
one gets a better idea of how good a
player really is under pressure. 82 regular games
is way too many to take seriously.

No I think West is much better than Odom as a forward.

West plays for NO and plays a different position than Odom anyway. And he is in no way MUCH better than Odom.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Yes.
This is what I said.
TOO many.
He SHOULD be shooting OVER 50%
with the number of pure athletic bull drive points makes.

I am getting confused as to who watches the games.
I thought I was an addict. I guess you have 5 games going
at once. I cant match that pace. One game at a time.

You want to talk about too many jumpers, look no further than Kobe Bryant. He's unstoppable off of the dribble and can get to the basket whenever he wants to, as evidenced by his 27 ft attempts against Dallas, yet he settles FAR too many times for 3pt shots.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm absolutely convinced that Pgardn and Stevie Wonder have watched the same number of basketball games.

Just as I am convinced that you dont watch any
but look up a lot of numbers. Be careful with that
with the horses.

You are a stat sports fan.
That is not smart at all in basketball.
It may be fun in baseball. You gotta
watch the games in basketball.

For example.
All these stupid lists have the Spurs
on top in the west. Truth. They have played
poorly. Record looks much better because
they are playing weak teams.

Houston is playing better defensive basketball
without Yao.

Detroit is much more than a 5 man team now and
is a better team than when they won the Championship.

I dont exactly know how LA is going to work Bynum in
with Gasol and Odom. I doubt they can defend with all
3 on the floor at the same time. I think Phil might move
one of the two to the second unit with Walton and Farmar.
A better D-unit than the first.

I could continue all night but Gauss calls me.

Your observations stat man...

Originally Posted by King Glorious

You want to talk about too many jumpers, look no further than Kobe Bryant. He's unstoppable off of the dribble and can get to the basket whenever he wants to, as evidenced by his 27 ft attempts against Dallas, yet he settles FAR too many times for 3pt shots.

Yes and he will get physically pummeled because he is not nearly as strong as Lebron. And he has Gasol now.

And who in the crap cannot go to the basket against Dallas? Think about who you are playing for God's sake. Exactly who on Dallas patrols the middle? Mudman, Dampier? Slow as molasses. Which player cannot go to the hoop on Dallas. Dirk is going to miss a game because he is playing enforcer for christ's sake.

You are sinking here.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dont you think that in order to get the lanes to drive you need to keep the defense honest? Dont you think in an 82 game season that getting hammered on his way to the hoop more than he already does would be detremental? Sometimes i think you forget that the NBA is not girls high school games and there are lots of reason why things are done that may not be readily apparent unless you understand this and realize that there is a big picture outside of the game in front of you.

Holy cow I just read this and said the same thing about Kobe.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Just as I am convinced that you dont watch any
but look up a lot of numbers. Be careful with that
with the horses.

You are a stat sports fan.
That is not smart at all in basketball.
It may be fun in baseball. You gotta
watch the games in basketball.

For example.
All these stupid lists have the Spurs
on top in the west. Truth. They have played
poorly. Record looks much better because
they are playing weak teams.

Houston is playing better defensive basketball
without Yao.

Detroit is much more than a 5 man team now and
is a better team than when they won the Championship.

I dont exactly know how LA is going to work Bynum in
with Gasol and Odom. I doubt they can defend with all
3 on the floor at the same time. I think Phil might move
one of the two to the second unit with Walton and Farmar.
A better D-unit than the first.

I could continue all night but Gauss calls me.

Your observations stat man...

This takes the cake. They have played poorly but have the best record in the West. They play in the toughest division in the league BY FAR but have been playing weak teams. Do you realize what you are saying here? There are seven teams in the league with a higher winning % than .650 and three of them are in their division and a fourth is at .639. How are they playing weak teams? And they've done that with Tony Parker missing 13 games. Yeah, they are weak. They've played 35 games against the West. The Lakers have played 34. How are the Spurs playing weak teams?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

West plays for NO and plays a different position than Odom anyway. And he is in no way MUCH better than Odom.

You asked who else with Paul did you not?
And he does not play a diff position, he plays a diff type of game.
And hell YES, I take him anyday over Odom.
You actually think Odom is a better player?

Originally Posted by King Glorious

This takes the cake. They have played poorly but have the best record in the West. They play in the toughest division in the league BY FAR but have been playing weak teams. Do you realize what you are saying here? There are seven teams in the league with a higher winning % than .650 and three of them are in their division and a fourth is at .639. How are they playing weak teams? And they've done that with Tony Parker missing 13 games. Yeah, they are weak. They've played 35 games against the West. The Lakers have played 34. How are the Spurs playing weak teams?

You have no a flippn clue.
Look at the Spurs schedule after Indiana.
Look at it right now.
They may have the toughest schedule of any team here on out.

No I have no idea what I am saying.
I live in San Antonio and have watched almost
every game since the ABA 1976

I have watched them all year and they
are clearly NOT PLAYING AT A HIGH LEVEL.
I dont care what their record says. This last part of the schedule will tell everyone
a whole lot about the Spurs. stop it with the numbers.
The game is more than numbers.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

You asked who else with Paul did you not?
And he does not play a diff position, he plays a diff type of game.
And hell YES, I take him anyday over Odom.
You actually think Odom is a better player?

I actually was speaking of the Cavs.
West is a post up, back to the basket, traditional power forward. Odom is more of a 3, face up player. They are both pretty good secondary players.

Tyson Chandler is the second most important player on that team. He has improved greatly the past few years. There was a time where he and Kwame Brown were thought to be equals and some even felt Kwame was better.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

You have no a flippn clue.
Look at the Spurs schedule after Indiana.
Look at it right now.
They may have the toughest schedule of any team here on out.

No I have no idea what I am saying.
I live in San Antonio and have watched almost
every game since the ABA 1976

I have watched them all year and they
are clearly NOT PLAYING AT A HIGH LEVEL.
I dont care what their record says. This last part of the schedule will tell everyone
a whole lot about the Spurs. stop it with the numbers.
The game is more than numbers.

James Silas and Billy "the whopper" Paultz references are coming soon....I can feel it!

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

James Silas and Billy "the whopper" Paultz references are coming soon....I can feel it!

Silas was/is a coke head and Billy has gone back to Boston.

Excellent memory though.

I was thinking more along the lines of Swen Nader. Thats way back.
Did not get all the games though.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I actually was speaking of the Cavs.
West is a post up, back to the basket, traditional power forward. Odom is more of a 3, face up player. They are both pretty good secondary players.

Tyson Chandler is the second most important player on that team. He has improved greatly the past few years. There was a time where he and Kwame Brown were thought to be equals and some even felt Kwame was better.

Are we talking about the same West?
David West can hit the jumper and does not need to post up at all if needed.
The man has a great game. He may be one of the hugely underrated power forwards imo.

Night, night to both of you.
Sorry if I was a passionate little Kobe fan.
But I like him so much more this year.
He gets hit in the face and scratched etc... and does not cry about it.
An awakening has occurred in this man imo.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

This takes the cake. They have played poorly but have the best record in the West. They play in the toughest division in the league BY FAR but have been playing weak teams. Do you realize what you are saying here? There are seven teams in the league with a higher winning % than .650 and three of them are in their division and a fourth is at .639. How are they playing weak teams? And they've done that with Tony Parker missing 13 games. Yeah, they are weak. They've played 35 games against the West. The Lakers have played 34. How are the Spurs playing weak teams?

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...n.35742c8.html
And the coach agrees.
All you have to do is watch instead of just reeling off a bunch of stats.

I'm absolutely convinced that Pgardn and Stevie Wonder have watched the same number of basketball games.
But I cannot claim you are Stevie Wonder
because you dont watch the games.