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Old 03-05-2008, 11:55 AM
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It's official....they're off the turf.
I guess I'm curious to see Big Brown to run on dirt anyways. Any idea on what type of race that has come back? I only distinctly recall seeing one horse out of it, a month or so ago at GP, and he didn't run well.
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:58 AM
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imo the 1 moves way up on the dirt
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:32 PM
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imo the 1 moves way up on the dirt

He's never run on the dirt. My guess is he's a total bet against.
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:34 PM
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He's never run on the dirt. My guess is he's a total bet against.
bad guess
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:48 PM
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bad guess

Why's that? Because he will be overbet based on turf and synthetic track form?
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hes trained on dirt and his past runs make him competitive along with the trainer stats hes 1 for 1 and his past says hes ok turf to dirt and off the layoff
dont they have a picture of your mug for hrtv?..just a phone..lol he just called you sTurling
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:06 PM
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I didn't know you witnessed his workouts.

As for HRTV not having my picture......it was their gain.
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:07 PM
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nice job on the show......
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:49 PM
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Big Brown opened at 1/5
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:52 PM
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I will take 5:2 on the bottom and box with Hedgefund Investor.
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:55 PM
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I will take 5:2 on the bottom and box with Hedgefund Investor.
I can't bet too many Pletcher's in one day or my head will explode...

i need him in the 7th at AQU to move on (or the 1), but i want the 7

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Old 03-05-2008, 03:13 PM
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BB in a romp

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Old 03-05-2008, 03:15 PM
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Results?
Big Brown destroyed a nothing field under a gallop in 1:35 3/5. I'll tell you what, I've seen two horses today that I would pick in the Florida Derby over what I saw in the FOY.
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BB in a romp

9-3-1-11

If he couldn't handle that crew he was really in trouble.
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Old 03-05-2008, 03:18 PM
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best colt in the usa....jeff siegle......
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BB in a romp

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Sweet!

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Old 03-05-2008, 03:19 PM
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The HRTV crew is going crazy over Big Brown. I've heard the name Curlin. I've heard he's the buzz horse for the Kentucky Derby. They've already seemed to give him the Florida Derby. For what it's worth (and I know you all eagerly anticipate this)..Big Brown and Ready's Echo appear to me to be the horses to beat in the Florida Derby if they go there.
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Old 03-05-2008, 03:22 PM
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best colt in the usa....jeff siegle......
I'll tell you, if I had TVG or HRTV and listened to these fools proclaim champions or whatever, I'd deserve whatever ill would come my way.

Won easy, yes.

Pretty fast, yes.

Beat anything? Absolutely not.
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Old 03-05-2008, 03:23 PM
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best colt in the usa....jeff siegle......

That's silly but he's got a lot of talent.

It's hard to judge the mile races versus 7F races, as in general the miles have been much slower, perhaps due to the insufficient run-up, but both maiden races were run in 1:23 1/5. Both of those winners are promising, and I don't think it's unfair to say that his 1:35 3/5 is four to six lengths faster than those races.

I haven't watched Gulfstream....is it a sealed track? If so that makes all the races tricky to take on face value. However, no matter how you cut it, Big Brown can run.
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