Garden City, Gazelle, & Man O' War

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Really? I think she hates one-turn 8f+ races at Belmont. She didn't run well there this summer, but rebounded to her spring form at Saratoga (2 turns).

The notion that horses like "extra turns" as opposed to say distance, is yet another reason never to pay attention to a "pedigree nut" when handicapping a race.
Pace is what matters, not turns. And if she ever gets away with a slow pace going one turn she will run well then as well.
Hocus pocus voo doo bull****(Nick Zito, before he won the Derby with a horse who didn't have "the dosage")

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by oracle80

The notion that horses like "extra turns" as opposed to say distance, is yet another reason never to pay attention to a "pedigree nut" when handicapping a race.
Pace is what matters, not turns. And if she ever gets away with a slow pace going one turn she will run well then as well.
Hocus pocus voo doo bull****(Nick Zito, before he won the Derby with a horse who didn't have "the dosage")

So would you say that in the Coaching Club, the results were a result of track conditions as the pace was nearly identical to that of the Alabama? Also, would you consider a bounce for her as she moved up 14 points on Beyers (although I know you use sheets...)?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by oracle80

The notion that horses like "extra turns" as opposed to say distance, is yet another reason never to pay attention to a "pedigree nut" when handicapping a race.
Pace is what matters, not turns. And if she ever gets away with a slow pace going one turn she will run well then as well.
Hocus pocus voo doo bull****(Nick Zito, before he won the Derby with a horse who didn't have "the dosage")

I totally disagree with this. So you're saying there aren't any horses that excel around one turn or excel around two turns? That's one of the strangest things I've heard you say.