Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Breeders' Cup Archive
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #81  
Old 11-02-2010, 01:45 PM
zippyneedsawin's Avatar
zippyneedsawin zippyneedsawin is offline
Oaklawn
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,064
Default

I can't seem to get to the last page of this thread.. so I figured maybe posting something would work.... let's see....
__________________
Alcohol, the cause and solution to all of life's problems. -Homer Simpson
Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 11-02-2010, 01:55 PM
Alan07 Alan07 is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,714
Default

Juvenile Male Dirt (3:55)
Post Horse Jockey Trainer Odds
1. Biondetti Ahmed Ajtebi Mahmoud Al Zarooni 12-1
2. Boys At Tosconova Ramon A. Dominguez Richard E. Dutrow, Jr. 5-2
3. J. B.'s Thunder Shaun Bridgmohan Albert M. Stall, Jr. 12-1
4. J P's Gusto Patrick A. Valenzuela David E. Hofmans 10-1
5. Riveting Reason Victor Espinoza Myung Kwon Cho 30-1
6. Stay Thirsty Javier Castellano Todd A. Pletcher 8-1
7. Uncle Mo John R. Velazquez Todd A. Pletcher 7-5
8. Murjan Rafael Bejarano Darrin Miller 30-1
9. Rogue Romance Julien Leparoux Kenneth G. McPeek 30-1
10. Jaycito Mike Smith Mike R. Mitchell 8-1
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 11-02-2010, 02:46 PM
robfla robfla is offline
Calder Race Course
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Strategically between Calder and Gulfstream
Posts: 1,892
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin View Post
I can't seem to get to the last page of this thread.. so I figured maybe posting something would work.... let's see....
i had the same problem...fixed now
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 11-02-2010, 02:55 PM
Scav Scav is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northwest of The Chi
Posts: 16,012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav View Post
Morning Line as the ML favorite of the Mile. Battaglia smoking some strong stuff
I'm sorry for being obsessed with this, but could this be the worst ML in the history of BC ML's

The horse has never even won at 8 furlongs, and won a 5 horse Penn Derby.

He has to be banging someone at Churchill to be allowed to keep his job.
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 11-02-2010, 02:58 PM
randallscott35's Avatar
randallscott35 randallscott35 is offline
Idlewild Airport
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 9,687
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav View Post
I'm sorry for being obsessed with this, but could this be the worst ML in the history of BC ML's

The horse has never even won at 8 furlongs, and won a 5 horse Penn Derby.

He has to be banging someone at Churchill to be allowed to keep his job.
Its Battaglia, don't fret it.
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 11-02-2010, 03:08 PM
Borntorun Borntorun is offline
Morris Park
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Bloominton, IL
Posts: 144
Default

When will the Past Performances be available from DRF? They still have the advanced PPs on the web-site. Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old 11-02-2010, 03:09 PM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,442
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scav View Post
I'm sorry for being obsessed with this, but could this be the worst ML in the history of BC ML's

The horse has never even won at 8 furlongs, and won a 5 horse Penn Derby.

He has to be banging someone at Churchill to be allowed to keep his job.
It should be good for you if you don't like that horse
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old 11-02-2010, 03:10 PM
hockey2315 hockey2315 is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,403
Default

There's no way Here Comes Ben and Tizway will be 6-1 either. Scav shouldn't be happy because the race won't be bet how Battaglia thinks it will. Morning Line should be like 8-1.
Reply With Quote
  #89  
Old 11-02-2010, 03:12 PM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by knickslions2 View Post
It should be good for you if you don't like that horse
Why? What percentage of the public is going to bet according to the morning line? Battaglia's line is irrelevant, just fun to laugh at.
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old 11-02-2010, 03:16 PM
parsixfarms parsixfarms is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Saratoga Springs
Posts: 1,779
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid View Post
Why? What percentage of the public is going to bet according to the morning line? Battaglia's line is irrelevant, just fun to laugh at.
A bad morning line helps in horizontal wagers if the horses that you like are considerably higher on the M/L than what their actual odds will be for betting on the race.
Reply With Quote
  #91  
Old 11-02-2010, 03:16 PM
hockey2315 hockey2315 is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,403
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by parsixfarms View Post
A bad morning line helps in horizontal wagers if the horses that you like are considerably higher on the M/L than what their actual odds will be for betting on the race.
Not really.
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 11-02-2010, 03:17 PM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,442
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid View Post
Why? What percentage of the public is going to bet according to the morning line? Battaglia's line is irrelevant, just fun to laugh at.
Ya but there are a lot of rookies betting these races and some bet based on morning lines
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 11-02-2010, 03:20 PM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by parsixfarms View Post
A bad morning line helps in horizontal wagers if the horses that you like are considerably higher on the M/L than what their actual odds will be for betting on the race.
No, it doesn't. People are going to bet how they're going to bet, horizontal or otherwise. Morning line makes very little difference, if any. It's an estimate that goes out the window once the pools open, especially giant pools like these.
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 11-02-2010, 03:25 PM
parsixfarms parsixfarms is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Saratoga Springs
Posts: 1,779
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey2315 View Post
Not really.
Happens all the time, especially with a lot of "casual" money in the pool.
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 11-02-2010, 06:58 PM
MinnSkinny's Avatar
MinnSkinny MinnSkinny is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas
Posts: 1,287
Default

Bump...
__________________
2705 Central Avenue
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 11-02-2010, 07:23 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,604
Default

JUVENILE TURF (1:50p)

1. Typhoon Slew (M. Maker/J. Leparoux) 15-1
2. Deciphering Dreams (R. Dutrow/R. Dominguez) 20-1
3. Mantoba (B. Meehan/F. Dettori) 5-1
4. Air Support (C. McGaughey/R. Maragh) 8-1
5. Master of Hounds (A. O'Brien/J. Murtagh) 9-2*
6. Utley (J. Gosden/W. Buick) 6-1
7. Willcox Inn (M. Stidham/J. Velazquez) 20-1
8. Banned (T. Proctor/J. Rosario) 10-1
9. Soldat (K. McLaughlin/A. Garcia) 8-1
10. Madman Diaries (W. Ward/J. Sanchez) 12-1
11. Rough Sailing (M. Stidham/R. Napravnik) 15-1
12. Humble and Hungry (I. Correas/O. Peslier) 20-1
13. Pluck (T. Pletcher/G. Gomez) 6-1
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old 11-02-2010, 07:30 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,604
Default

SPRINT (2:30p)

1. Big Drama (D. Fawkes/E. Coa) 7-2
2. Girolamo (S. bin Suroor/A. Garcia) 3-1*
3. Wise Dan (C. Lopresti/R. Bejarano) 10-1
4. Hamazing Destiny (W. Lukas/J. Rosario) 20-1
5. Smiling Tiger (J. Bonde/R. Baze) 6-1
6. Pashito the Che (S. Lake/J. Castellano) 15-1
7. Kinsale King (C. O'Callaghan/M. Garcia) 8-1
8. Cash Refund (S. Margolis/J. Velazquez) 20-1
9. Supreme Summit (D. O'Neill/G. Gomez) 15-1
10. Riley Tucker (S. Asmussen/R. Dominguez) 8-1
11. Atta Boy Roy (V. Lund/C. Borel) 12-1
12. Warrior's Reward (I. Wilkes/J. Leparoux) 12-1
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 11-02-2010, 07:34 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,604
Default

TURF (6:00p)

1. Champ Pegasus (R. Mandella/J. Rosario) 10-1
2. Winchester (C. Clement/C. Velasquez) 8-1
3. Telling (S. Hobby/J. Castellano) 20-1
4. Debussy (J. Gosden/W. Buick) 10-1
5. Al Khali (B. Mott/J. Leparoux) 10-1
6. Workforce (M. Stoute/R. Moore) 7-5
7. Behkabad (J. Roget/C. Lemaire) 9-5
8. Dangerous Midge (B. Meehan/F. Dettori) 12-1
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 11-02-2010, 07:57 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,604
Default

MILE (4:40p)

1. Beethoven (O'Brien/J. Murtagh) 20-1
2. Society's Chairman (Attfield/J. Leparoux) 20-1
3. Gio Ponti (C. Clement/R. Dominguez) 4-1
4. Court Vision (R. Dutrow/R. Albarado) 12-1
5. Delegator (S. bin Suroor/F. Dettori) 12-1
6. Paco Boy (R. Hannon/R. Moore) 6-1
7. The Usual Q. T. (J. Cassidy/V. Espinoza) 15-1
8. Get Stormy (T. Bush/J. Castellano) 20-1
9. Sidney's Candy (J. Sadler/J. Rosario) 10-1
10. Goldikova (F. Head/O. Peslier) 6-5*
11. Proviso (B. Mott/M. Smith) 12-1
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 11-02-2010, 08:07 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,604
Default

JUVENILE (3:55p)

1. Biondetti (S. bin Suroor/A. Ajtebi) 12-1
2. Boys At Tosconova (R. Dutrow/R. Dominguez) 5-2
3. J. B.'s Thunder (A. Stall/S. Bridgmohan) 12-1
4. J P's Gusto (D. Hofmans/P. Valenzuela) 10-1
5. Riveting Reason (M. Cho/V. Espinoza) 30-1
6. Stay Thirsty (T. Pletcher/J. Castellano) 8-1
7. Uncle Mo (T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez) 7-5*
8. Murjan (J. Suarez/R. Bejarano) 30-1
9. Rogue Romance (K. McPeek/J. Leparoux) 30-1
10. Jaycito (M. Mitchell/M. Smith) 8-1
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.