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Old 07-06-2020, 04:25 PM
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well,at least for me in delaware 9th today the 1 horse,,color in motion was ridden by kristen swan,,,trained by kristen swan,,and owned by kristen swan could i have read that wrong? is this all the same person? thank you
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:29 PM
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well,at least for me in delaware 9th today the 1 horse,,color in motion was ridden by kristen swan,,,trained by kristen swan,,and owned by kristen swan could i have read that wrong? is this all the same person? thank you
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Old 07-06-2020, 08:44 PM
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Reminds me of Bail Bond
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:26 PM
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well,at least for me in delaware 9th today the 1 horse,,color in motion was ridden by kristen swan,,,trained by kristen swan,,and owned by kristen swan could i have read that wrong? is this all the same person? thank you
The reason you don't normally see it is because it's not legal in thoroughbred racing. That was an Arabian race.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:25 AM
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Jackie Falk has owned, trained and ridden her horses for years. As recently as last season at Finger Lakes, but at Suffolk and even Saratoga over the last 15+ years.

https://www.timesunion.com/sports/ar...ge-4680575.php
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:24 PM
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its not illegel to do what i saw yesterday i saw 3 weeks ago also at fonner or fort erie and i remember that fauk jock steve was talking about
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:46 PM
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Default i dont know rupert u may be right

i found something when i asked on google and up until 2007 it was not allowed for jocks to own a horse,,,maybe it changed since 2007? its interesting whichever
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Old 07-07-2020, 04:15 PM
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its not illegel to do what i saw yesterday i saw 3 weeks ago also at fonner or fort erie and i remember that fauk jock steve was talking about
It is possible that the rule could be different in some states. But in most states, a jockey can't own an active racehorse. That's why over the years you've never seen any famous active jockeys owning horses. I think the rule is different when it comes to Arabians, jumpers, etc.
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Old 07-07-2020, 05:40 PM
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clyde Martin at delaware park did this & gulfsream. with a few horses

https://www.equibase.com/profiles/Re...=TB#completeSt
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:13 PM
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clyde Martin at delaware park did this & gulfsream. with a few horses

https://www.equibase.com/profiles/Re...=TB#completeSt
Good job Benny.. I was trying to think of Martin and was blanking.
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Old 07-23-2020, 04:32 PM
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Default well i stand correctedmmi think you are wrong rupert

july 23rd 9th race maiden claiming,,not arabian
deemed a mistress
wins at 60-1

owner/trainer/rider all kristen swan i think its legal
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Old 07-23-2020, 06:10 PM
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july 23rd 9th race maiden claiming,,not arabian
deemed a mistress
wins at 60-1

owner/trainer/rider all kristen swan i think its legal
That was an Arabian MSW race.

https://www.equibase.com/premium/cha...20&cy=USA&rn=9
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Old 07-23-2020, 06:20 PM
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it didnt say arabian on equibase thank u and to u rup sorry
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Old 07-23-2020, 06:43 PM
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it didnt say arabian on equibase thank u and to u rup sorry
The 2nd line of the Equibase chart says Arabian.

You can usually tell too when all the horse's names are IN ALL CAPS that they aren't thoroughbreds.

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Old 07-24-2020, 09:09 AM
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Tim Wooley is another trainer who owns a few and works them, but doesn't ride at the track. I had a few with him and he was always the exercise rider.
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Old 08-04-2020, 03:24 PM
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https://www.americasbestracing.net/t...trainer-jockey
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