the sharpness of ny summer bettors

[hockey2315]

Any way to factor out off the turf races?

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

median win mutuel

Saratoga $8.95
DelMar $9.60

It just seems that exactas and tri's, P3's and P4's pay more lucratively in So Cal. It may be related to pool sizes of exotics which are clearly different in P6's. All I know is I rarely look at a New York cashed ticket as being more than expected but have that happen regularly in So Cal...of course I think I am better at California racing for whatever reason..

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Any way to factor out off the turf races?

nope, off the turf just becomes a dirt race.

i can tell you that on fast tracks at Saratoga the ave mutuel is $13.71 and for everything other than fast its $12.68

[hockey2315]

Thanks, Jim. . . That database of yours is pretty cool.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I think you're going to find handle down everywhere, due to the economy. I know saratoga is down already, although some of that might be due to weather.

Arlington
585 races, ave win mutuel $12.99, ave field size 8.36

and you back out Cat/Cal??

I know...not real, but that number would be amazing

[asudevil]

Today's Pick 4 was a perfect example of what I mentioned in a previous post. You arguably had 2 singles on the last 2 legs. Zenyatta at $3.20 and Chanjo $4.80. The fist leg was a 2yo maiden race that had a 28 dollar winner. Could have used 5 or 6 horses in the baby race. The 2nd leg produced a $9.80 horse who was second choice in the large field. The ticket paid $321 for a dollar!!! The pool had 760k. What would similar prices pay in NY? $140 for a dollar?

[the_fat_man]

I'm still trying to figure out what happened in today's 6th at SAR.

3rd choice over the 8th choice in a 9 horse field pays $74?

that's 3:1 over a 22:1

I realize that Tea with the Tiger has a reputation as a hanger and people are probably using him for 2nd with the choices (probably not, actually).

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Today's Pick 4 was a perfect example of what I mentioned in a previous post. You arguably had 2 singles on the last 2 legs. Zenyatta at $3.20 and Chanjo $4.80. The fist leg was a 2yo maiden race that had a 28 dollar winner. Could have used 5 or 6 horses in the baby race. The 2nd leg produced a $9.80 horse who was second choice in the large field. The ticket paid $321 for a dollar!!! The pool had 760k. What would similar prices pay in NY? $140 for a dollar?

With a $28 horse, you really think it was going to pay $140 for $1 anywhere?

[docicu3]

[quote=asudevil]Today's Pick 4 was a perfect example of what I mentioned in a previous post. You arguably had 2 singles on the last 2 legs. Zenyatta at $3.20 and Chanjo $4.80. The fist leg was a 2yo maiden race that had a 28 dollar winner. Could have used 5 or 6 horses in the baby race. The 2nd leg produced a $9.80 horse who was second choice in the large field. The ticket paid $321 for a dollar!!! The pool had 760k. What would similar prices pay in NY? $140 for a dollar?[/QUOTE)

Exactly......Playing the first timers who worked well in the 6th, the closers in the 6.5F claimer, Zenatta and the horse who was touted to have gone 10 seconds and change for the last 8th in the most recent workout still got you decent return.

I was disappointed with the payoff for the P3 that ended with the 8th.

$19.80/$28.40/$9.80 gets you $583.40 after being spoiled by the $12.20/$19.80/$28.40 which brought in $1374.50. The 3 dollar difference in the cheapest price tripled return. Somehow you feel ripped off with the $593. Foolish I realize....but seems like there should have been more than what came back. At least the taxman didn't chew on this one..

In New York these prices would be fractions for some reason...

[AeWingnut]

[quote=docicu3]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Today's Pick 4 was a perfect example of what I mentioned in a previous post. You arguably had 2 singles on the last 2 legs. Zenyatta at $3.20 and Chanjo $4.80. The fist leg was a 2yo maiden race that had a 28 dollar winner. Could have used 5 or 6 horses in the baby race. The 2nd leg produced a $9.80 horse who was second choice in the large field. The ticket paid $321 for a dollar!!! The pool had 760k. What would similar prices pay in NY? $140 for a dollar?[/QUOTE)

Exactly......Playing the first timers who worked well in the 6th, the closers in the 6.5F claimer, Zenatta and the horse who was touted to have gone 10 seconds and change for the last 8th in the most recent workout still got you decent return.

I was disappointed with the payoff for the P3 that ended with the 8th.

$19.80/$28.40/$9.80 gets you $583.40 after being spoiled by the $12.20/$19.80/$28.40 which brought in $1374.50. The 3 dollar difference in the cheapest price tripled return. Somehow you feel ripped off with the $593. Foolish I realize....but seems like there should have been more than what came back. At least the taxman didn't chew on this one..

In New York these prices would be fractions for some reason...

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