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Old 04-16-2008, 11:02 AM
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I think what Hossy is overlooking is the fact that Tomcito is three syllables.

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Old 04-16-2008, 11:04 AM
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He has no shot in the Derby if he somehow gets in. He's a claimer.
we can just paste in the Caesar thread as there can't be anything that wasn't covered about this horse in there
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:28 AM
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He will basically pass everything that totally stops in front of him....

Which might actually be quite a few horses in this years Derby.

He could run a nice 9th or 10th if the pace is hot enough
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:36 AM
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He will basically pass everything that totally stops in front of him....

Which might actually be quite a few horses in this years Derby.

He could run a nice 9th or 10th if the pace is hot enough
A must include in the Super High 9?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:02 PM
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"You know what's not weird? Is the fact that you continue to make weird posts."

they're not weird. you couldn't predict weird.

but ever since pg came back you could depend on a post after a prep was run that he liked the winner in the derby. sometimes the second place runner.

just wait for the lexington and see.
i might sound stupid but what is all this pg stuff about it seems to keep coming up with regards to jcs
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:02 PM
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i might sound stupid but what is all this pg stuff about it seems to keep coming up with regards to jcs
JCS used to post here as the legendary PG1985
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:11 PM
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Honestly I kinda like the horse. He does make some sense but he's one to watch IF he makes it in the gate Derby day...
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:12 PM
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He has no shot in the Derby if he somehow gets in. He's a claimer.
are you being serious ?
what makes him a claimer ?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:12 PM
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JCS used to post here as the legendary PG1985
legendary status ?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:22 PM
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He will basically pass everything that totally stops in front of him....

Which might actually be quite a few horses in this years Derby.

He could run a nice 9th or 10th if the pace is hot enough
Might be able to get 4th or 5th if things COMPLETELY melt down... note the Imawildncrazyguy types- which is a lot more upside than most of these plugs. If I'm right, and the Florida Derby Beyer was actually too low, then he's got a legit chance to finish in the top quarter of the race (with a 0% chance of actually winning)

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Yeah I'm serious. Just because this years race is seemingly up for grabs doesn't mean EVERY single horse is playable. I'm just curious where his good race is.
Unfortunately I think we're saying that about 80% of the field this year. Boy does this group suck.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:01 PM
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It would be nice if the powers that be change jcs' name back to POINTGIVEN1985.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:17 PM
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Sheerly out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen any of Tomcito's races back in Peru?
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:20 PM
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Sheerly out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen any of Tomcito's races back in Peru?
Of course not. I don't need to see any of his races to know he's got a legitimate shot of winning the Derby. Three syllables...man.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:21 PM
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Yes - they are on YouTube.

I've also looked at the charts and final times of other races on the card the days he ran - he was not exactly running alarmingly fast times over there in Peru in relation to other dirt races on the card.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:21 PM
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Sheerly out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen any of Tomcito's races back in Peru?
I saw one on YouTube once.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:22 PM
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Pantsy, you're speaking to the choir. This will clearly be the reason for Big Brown's downfall. (That and the incredible lack of foundation, but I digress)
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:24 PM
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Yes - they are on YouTube.

I've also looked at the charts and final times of other races on the card the days he ran - he was not exactly running alarmingly fast times over there in Peru in relation to other dirt races on the card.

Thanks for this analysis of Tomcito's South American races. It's often a complete guess as to these Grade I races, some do come up here and gel
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:46 PM
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He has only run one race over here and that was off of a pretty long layoff. He ran a respectable third there but was generally uninspiring.
Overall I thought his performance at Gulfstream was decent enough given the circumstances and I could see him being a potential horse to use on the bottom of exotics if he makes it to the Derby.
I think it is just too early to say whether he will be a claimer or a stakes winner over here yet, and unfortunately we won't really learn anything about his dirt ability in the Lexington. If he does make it to the Derby, I couldn't fault people for including him on deep tickets.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:52 PM
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He has only run one race over here and that was off of a pretty long layoff. He ran a respectable third there but was generally uninspiring.
Overall I thought his performance at Gulfstream was decent enough given the circumstances and I could see him being a potential horse to use on the bottom of exotics if he makes it to the Derby.
I think it is just too early to say whether he will be a claimer or a stakes winner over here yet, and unfortunately we won't really learn anything about his dirt ability in the Lexington. If he does make it to the Derby, I couldn't fault people for including him on deep tickets.
Pretty much.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:55 PM
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Sheerly out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen any of Tomcito's races back in Peru?
Here's one...


http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...hlight=tomcito
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