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Old 05-04-2015, 11:40 AM
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Anyone heard anything that he had colic in the weeks leading up to the Derby?
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:41 AM
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Oops. One week before the Derby.
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:52 AM
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Just saw the video from CD and Baffert mentioning it. Says it was minor and didn't last long. Probably a shot of ban amine took care of it. Funny how he kept this in-house before the race.
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:54 AM
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Per the Twittersphere - it was a mild colic event which took place at some point after his last workout and prior to the Derby - all rumor until confirmed, obviously Baffert didn't think much of it.
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Old 05-04-2015, 12:08 PM
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If you prefer your information first hand, you could listen to Baffert talk about it on ATR.
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Old 05-04-2015, 12:34 PM
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If you prefer your information first hand, you could listen to Baffert talk about it on ATR.
I will, thanks.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:38 PM
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he ran tough. if he was ill he did a hell of a job.

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Old 05-05-2015, 09:04 AM
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A mild colic is like us having indigestion, it's no big deal, I can't even count the amount of times I've had to treat a horse for a minor colic, horses don't throw up so they have bouts of colic on occasion, unless it's severe it has no bearing even the next day.
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Old 05-05-2015, 09:17 AM
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Why was his Derby start in jeopardy if this is what minor colic is?
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Old 05-05-2015, 09:49 AM
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Because it can progress to severe colic requiring surgery, but this was clearly a minor case as he was fine.
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Old 05-05-2015, 09:53 AM
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Ok. I understand. What I'm saying is that any hiccup in training up to the Derby is a red flag for me. I probably wouldn't have bet on Dortmund if I had hear about this, no matter where he finished.
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Old 05-05-2015, 09:57 AM
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Ok. I understand. What I'm saying is that any hiccup in training up to the Derby is a red flag for me. I probably wouldn't have bet on Dortmund if I had hear about this, no matter where he finished.
I know what you are saying, but there is an information overload headed into the Derby nowadays. You get reports, from multiple sources that often contradict each other. You can say this info on Dortmund may have hurt him, but he ran a good race. At the same time, American Pharoah had a quarter crack and won. The one horse who's reported issue that really ran a stinker was Upstart, who received antibiotics. I was off him completely until I saw him sitting there at 32-1. Apparently I wasn't the only one as he went off at 15-1, which is a number I wouldn't have been as excited about betting.
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Old 05-05-2015, 10:10 AM
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I know what you are saying, but there is an information overload headed into the Derby nowadays. You get reports, from multiple sources that often contradict each other. You can say this info on Dortmund may have hurt him, but he ran a good race. At the same time, American Pharoah had a quarter crack and won. The one horse who's reported issue that really ran a stinker was Upstart, who received antibiotics. I was off him completely until I saw him sitting there at 32-1. Apparently I wasn't the only one as he went off at 15-1, which is a number I wouldn't have been as excited about betting.
Uh, what?

AP has a quarter crack?
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You just never know. Makes me think back to how washed out Shackleford looked before the Preakness, before he won it. I would have canceled ever bet I had with him based on the way he looked.
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:31 AM
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Uh, what?

AP has a quarter crack?
I don't believe Upstart missing a workout and getting antibiotics was any secret either.
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:37 AM
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I don't believe Upstart missing a workout and getting antibiotics was any secret either.
Yeah, I recall that about Upstart. No clue on the crack though.
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:41 AM
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I just Googled American Pharoah and quarter crack. Zayats other horse had the beginnings of one, but not a single blip about one for AP.
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:17 PM
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He had a special shoe on that was covered extensively by DRF.
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:07 PM
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That was on for all his races this year.
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:40 PM
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He had a special shoe on that was covered extensively by DRF.
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That was on for all his races this year.
I have no idea how I missed that, but thanks for informing me.
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