10/14 (WO): CDN Intl., E.P. Taylor, Neartic (G1's), Durham Cup (G3)

[Kasept]

4th (2:31) Durham Cup S. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 James Street Velazquez J R 119 L
2 City Wolf Wilson E 119 Blk-Off L
3 Alpha Bettor Pizarro T 121 L
4 Vertiformer Campbell J M 119 L
5 Delegation Husbands P 115 L
6 Mobilizer Smullen P J 119 L



5th (3:04) Nearctic S. (G1)

6 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Bear Tough Tiger Stein J 117 L
2 As de Trebol Demuro M 117
3 Stormy Rush McAleney J S 117 L
4 Night Carnation (GB) Velazquez J R 114 FTL
5 Grand Adventure Castellano J J 117 L
6 Hammers Terror Gomez G K 116 L
7 Next Question Dominguez R A 117 L
8 Big Band Sound Pizarro T 121 L
9 Artic Fern Contreras L 117 L
10 Super Chunky Russell S 117 L
11 Fire Lily (IRE) Lordan W 115



8th (4:38) E. P. Taylor S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Stars to Shine Solis A 124 L
2 Pagera (FR) Peslier O 124 FTL
3 Siyouma (IRE) Mosse G 124
4 Barefoot Lady (IRE) Hamilton T 124
5 Dream Peace (IRE) Dominguez R A 124 L
6 Moment of Majesty Olguin G L 124 L
7 All Star Heart Blanc B 124 L
8 Trois Lunes (FR) Bertras F X 119
9 Princess Highway Smullen P J 119 FTL
10 Vamo a Galupiar (CHI) Smith M E 124 L
11 Kapitale (GER) Demuro M 124 L
12 Kissable (IRE) Velazquez J R 124
13 Havant (GB) Dettori L 124 FTL



10th (5:44) Pattison Canadian International S. (G1)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,500,000

1 Lay Time (GB) Fortune J 123
2 Dandino (GB) Crowley J 126
3 Forte Dei Marmi (GB) Velazquez J R 126 L
4 Scalo (GB) Starke A 126 Blk-On L
5 Prince Will I Am Dominguez R A 126 L
6 Wigmore Hall (IRE) Spencer J P 126 L
7 Reliable Man (GB) Peslier O 126
8 Joshua Tree (IRE) Dettori L 126 FTL
9 Al Khali Gomez G K 126 L
10 Imperial Monarch (IRE) Moore R L 119 FTL
11 Air Support Castellano J J 126 L

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Kasept

5th (3:04) Nearctic S. (G1)

2 As de Trebol Demuro M 117

Oh hooray I didn't know hw was coming!

Here's one of his wins from last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKK5FRygSY4

[Alabama Stakes]

looks like The Bid winning that race on you tube

[Gate Dancer]

Cool video..............some serious lather on his neck. Interesting race track. Thanks for sharing.............

[PatCummings]

The form of Fire Lily in the Nearctic absolutely TOWERS over this field, it's not even close, and the 115 pounds she carries is a massive edge.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

The form of Fire Lily in the Nearctic absolutely TOWERS over this field, it's not even close, and the 115 pounds she carries is a massive edge.

Wow, very impressive.

PPs...

http://www.woodbineentertainment.com...ay_Oct1412.pdf

[Bogey]

Absolutely ridiculous that these four races don't make up a Pick Four. Both Pick Fours are unplayable with the way they were carded.

Nice races nonetheless!!!

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

The form of Fire Lily in the Nearctic absolutely TOWERS over this field, it's not even close, and the 115 pounds she carries is a massive edge.

Outside post and the TGH figures seem to play against Pat, but if your right you'll get paid fairly well here. Sometimes it is difficult to know when TGH figures are inaccurate with foreign shippers. You seem convinced about this one....

[Gate Dancer]

Originally Posted by Bogey

Absolutely ridiculous that these four races don't make up a Pick Four. Both Pick Fours are unplayable with the way they were carded.

Nice races nonetheless!!!

Agreed..............I just don't get why Woodbine doesn't string these kind of races together. It's been their pattern but it seems crazy.

(anxious to hammer Fire Lily)

[PatCummings]

Yeah, so, Fire Lily...awful.

Joshua Tree, on the other hand, is one of the great horses in training. 2nd win in the race, now 20 starts in nine countries. Love seeing that, especially when you compare it to connection not even willing to try a more ambitious campaign.

[PatCummings]

I've regularly seen/heard Woodbine ridiculed for not putting an all-stakes pick four together in recent years, or at least grouping their big G1 stakes races. It was mentioned in the stakes thread for this weekend too. The numbers suggest they aren't making the wrong decision.

For the last four years, they've run these races on the same weekend...the only difference between the races from 2009-2010 when they did group the stakes, and 2011-2012 when they didn't, is that they used to run these races on a Saturday. Presumably, there is more money available on Saturdays, but less overall stakes action on Sundays. Then again, they go up against the NFL, etc. But as far as the numbers are concerned, they seem to be doing just fine scheduling things the way they have.

2009 early p4 (no stakes) - $73k
2010 early p4 (no stakes) - $86k
2011 early p4 (with Nearctic) - $126k
2012 early p4 (with Durham Cup, Nearctic) - $164k

2009 late p4 (all 3 stakes, 41 horses total) - $128k
2010 late p4 (all 3 stakes, 45 horses total) - $216k
2011 late p4 (2 stakes, 47 horses total) - $198k
2012 late p4 (2 stakes, 45 horses total) - $288k

2009 p4 totals = $201k
2010 p4 totals = $302k
2011 p4 totals = $324k
2012 p4 totals = $452k

2009 total Int'l day handle: $5.802m
2010: $6.322m
2011: $6.400m
2012: $6.326m

[Alan07]

Woodbine has always carded their big stakes for Sundays since the 80's, with some exceptions.

And besides, its better to have a pick 4 with two allowances race and two stakes with full fields, than four stakes with small fields.