Bold Predictions

Predictions....hmmm...This should be fun

Pletcher wins another Eclipse.
Deep Impact loses in the Arc and if he runs in US he will lose again.
Hurrican Run will struggle this year.
Flower Alley is upset in the Breeders Cup Classic.
Gorella wins whatever Breeders Cup race she races in.
Declans Moon has a great fall and winter
Lost In The Fog wins only 1 more race
Surf Cat is retired

Last but not least---D Wayne Lukas wins 2 Breeder Cup races.

Originally Posted by Sweetness

I'm with you 100% on Happy ticket, she is a special mare. I would like to see Happy win a few more of those fights, but she is a pleasure to watch. I'm giving Indian Vale a mulligan, thinking maybe she didn't like Belmont like she didn't like Philly Park last year. I also thought she was the best coming into this year, and I think she will be vindicated. We already know she loves Saratoga, and Churchill, and 2 turns. I know she spit the bit pretty bad in the last out, but Take D'our proved last out that she is a possible force in the Distaff division, although I'd like to see her transfer those Belmont races somewhere else.

I really think Tour D' ur will prove to be a one-turn specialist...I can't see her wiring top-class fillies and mares around two turns....not gonna happen and I can't wait to bet against her when she stretches out around two turns because I know she will take a lot of money off of her recent form....she is purely a niche horse, which doesn't make her a bad horse...she has really blossomed nicely but I think her run is about up....

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Predictions....hmmm...This should be fun

Pletcher wins another Eclipse.
Deep Impact loses in the Arc and if he runs in US he will lose again.
Hurrican Run will struggle this year.
Flower Alley is upset in the Breeders Cup Classic.
Gorella wins whatever Breeders Cup race she races in.
Declans Moon has a great fall and winter
Lost In The Fog wins only 1 more race
Surf Cat is retired

Last but not least---D Wayne Lukas wins 2 Breeder Cup races.

Wow, those are some predictions, but this isn't 1994, no way Lukas wins 2 Breeders Cup races, he might not even win 2 stakes the rest of the year.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Sweetness

Wow, those are some predictions, but this isn't 1994, no way Lukas wins 2 Breeders Cup races, he might not even win 2 stakes the rest of the year.

ahhh... but he must win a grade I for my prediction to come true....

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Dude, Stephen A. didn't say that, Bill Simmons did..

I just went back and re-read the article...and you sir, are correct. Thanks for the heads up. I thought Simmons had quoted Stephen A.

Originally Posted by Sweetness

Wow, those are some predictions, but this isn't 1994, no way Lukas wins 2 Breeders Cup races, he might not even win 2 stakes the rest of the year.

Well the thread called for some bold predictions.............

BC winners:

Juvenile: Scat Daddy (although I question his ability around two turns...seriously, I think the BC Juvy winner hasn't raced yet)

Juvenile Fillies: One of the 20+ fillies that Darley has in training at the Spa that hasn't started yet...

F&M Turf: Gorella and stablemate Lady of Venice EX, especially if Shawanda is on the shelf and it is looking that way...I don't like Ouija Board...I also thought Asi Siempre would be a live U.S. sleeper this year but I have been worng there as she has been AWFUL and I've lost a lot of money supporting her ass, but Biancone still gets the EX in this division when his 3yo filly steps up and runs HUGE to complete the EX behind her chalk stablemate...

Mile: One of Europe's top milers just like always (not sure who yet)...

Turf: Again, the Euros are still better than us...Hala Bek is a solid sleeper if he comes and Hurricane Run wins if he comes....

Distaff: Happy Ticket...not a reach here and I would've gone Indian Vale had I thought she possessed more heart than I've seen from her...

Sprint: Henny Hughes in a thriller...any huge surprise here?

Classic: Bernardini wins for fun...

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HOY = Bernardini

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

BC winners:

Juvenile: Scat Daddy (although I question his ability around two turns...seriously, I think the BC Juvy winner hasn't raced yet)

Juvenile Fillies: One of the 20+ fillies that Darley has in training at the Spa that hasn't started yet...

F&M Turf: Gorella and stablemate Lady of Venice EX, especially if Shawanda is on the shelf and it is looking that way...I don't like Ouija Board...I also thought Asi Siempre would be a live U.S. sleeper this year but I have been worng there as she has been AWFUL and I've lost a lot of money supporting her ass, but Biancone still gets the EX in this division when his 3yo filly steps up and runs HUGE to complete the EX behind her chalk stablemate...

Mile: One of Europe's top milers just like always (not sure who yet)...

Turf: Again, the Euros are still better than us...Hala Bek is a solid sleeper if he comes and Hurricane Run wins if he comes....

Distaff: Happy Ticket...not a reach here and I would've gone Indian Vale had I thought she possessed more heart than I've seen from her...

Sprint: Henny Hughes in a thriller...any huge surprise here?

Classic: Bernardini wins for fun...

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HOY = Bernardini

If Biancone decides to keep Gorella at a Mile because the F&M Turf is 1 3/8 this year, do you give her any shot in that race?

Originally Posted by Sweetness

If Biancone decides to keep Gorella at a Mile because the F&M Turf is 1 3/8 this year, do you give her any shot in that race?

I give her a huge shot in the mile. I think this is where she belongs. She doesnt want the 1 3/8. Gorella is going to win the mile. Prob get good odds on her as well.

Originally Posted by Sweetness

If Biancone decides to keep Gorella at a Mile because the F&M Turf is 1 3/8 this year, do you give her any shot in that race?

Unfortunately, probably not...I know she ran well in it last year, but I just think there will always be a Euro that is faster and better..I know Artie won it last year and I actually bet Artie, but most years I'll side with the European contingent...we'll just have to see how strong they (Euros) are before I decide....I will say this, I think Gorella is better than Miesque's Approval...Another real longshot sleeper in this division to me is Bobby Frankel's Diamond Green, who has a lot of backclass and should wake up if Frankel gets him off the fairways on the West coast and onto the more authentic grass courses on the East coast....he might be a live longshot worth following..I've always been a fan of his...

Back to Gorella, I think she can beat most fillies and mares going 1 3/8-miles...just depends on who comes...her race iun the Woodford Reserve on Derby day was VERY good IMO against horses that are all superior to most fillies and mares in the world...she got into SIGNIFICANT traffic trouble and was finishing with a ton of interest going 1 1/8-miles over that course...I was on the rail watching it and I watched her gallop out...I really don't see 1 3/8-miles being a big issue for her over that turf course....we'll see...

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Unfortunately, probably not...I know she ran well in it last year, but I just think there will always be a Euro that is faster and better..I know Artie won it last year and I actually bet Artie, but most years I'll side with the European contingent...we'll just have to see how strong they (Euros) are before I decide....I will say this, I think Gorella is better than Miesque's Approval...Another real longshot sleeper in this division to me is Bobby Frankel's Diamond Green, who has a lot of backclass and should wake up if Frankel gets him off the fairways on the West coast and onto the more authentic grass courses on the East coast....he might be a live longshot worth following..I've always been a fan of his...

Back to Gorella, I think she can beat most fillies and mares going 1 3/8-miles...just depends on who comes...her race iun the Woodford Reserve on Derby day was VERY good IMO against horses that are all superior to most fillies and mares in the world...she got into SIGNIFICANT traffic trouble and was finishing with a ton of interest going 1 1/8-miles over that course...I was on the rail watching it and I watched her gallop out...I really don't see 1 3/8-miles being a big issue for her over that turf course....we'll see...

Well Artie won the mile last year and Singletary won the mile the year before. Plus Gorella is from Europe just racing in the US the past two years. Gorella wins the mile if she goes.

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Unfortunately, probably not...I know she ran well in it last year, but I just think there will always be a Euro that is faster and better..I know Artie won it last year and I actually bet Artie, but most years I'll side with the European contingent...we'll just have to see how strong they (Euros) are before I decide....I will say this, I think Gorella is better than Miesque's Approval...Another real longshot sleeper in this division to me is Bobby Frankel's Diamond Green, who has a lot of backclass and should wake up if Frankel gets him off the fairways on the West coast and onto the more authentic grass courses on the East coast....he might be a live longshot worth following..I've always been a fan of his...

Back to Gorella, I think she can beat most fillies and mares going 1 3/8-miles...just depends on who comes...her race iun the Woodford Reserve on Derby day was VERY good IMO against horses that are all superior to most fillies and mares in the world...she got into SIGNIFICANT traffic trouble and was finishing with a ton of interest going 1 1/8-miles over that course...I was on the rail watching it and I watched her gallop out...I really don't see 1 3/8-miles being a big issue for her over that turf course....we'll see...

I'm with you on that Woodford Reserve race, she was really up against it. I just don't know if that amazing kick of hers will be as effective going 1 3/8. I was also high on Diamond Green, but I just read he ran an uninspiring 3rd today at Woodbine.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I actually agree with a lot of this....nice prediction.......Henny is a monster in my opinion...in know he beat nothing when the Smart Strike colt and Keyed Entry both scratched, but I was VERY high on him as possibly being the most talented sprinter in the country before that race and I only needed to see a solid return to affirm my belief.....I would consider his return WAY better than I was expecting.....he is a monster and I've been warning people on ATRAB about his comeback for months....

Help me out. How did you come to think Henny Hughes was at/near the top of U.S. sprinters BEFORE his race last weekend? The horse hadn't run in nine months, hadn't sprinted in 10 months and hadn't won in eleven months.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Help me out. How did you come to think Henny Hughes was at/near the top of U.S. sprinters BEFORE his race last weekend? The horse hadn't run in nine months, hadn't sprinted in 10 months and hadn't won in eleven months.

S2S,

I can confirm that JC has been flogging for HH on "At the Races" in anticipation of his return... My answer to the question above? KMc..

You mention HH "hadn't won in 11 months", but he also hadn't been worse than 2nd in those "loses" (to Sam in the Champagne and Hopeful, Stevie WB in the BCJ).. I'd say his credentials coming back were more than solid. I saw him Belmont night in the barn, and he looked terrific. McLaughlin is as good as any trainer in the world bringing them back, and you had to figure that in the early summer of his three year old year he'd be stronger than he was as a baby. Based on his proven ability going short at 2, that made/makes him eligible to be as good as any of the sprint specialists out there.

That's my take anyway..

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Kasept

S2S,

I can confirm that JC has been flogging for HH on "At the Races" in anticipation of his return... My answer to the question above? KMc..

You mention HH "hadn't won in 11 months", but he also hadn't been worse than 2nd in those "loses" (to Sam in the Champagne and Hopeful, Stevie WB in the BCJ).. I'd say his credentials coming back were more than solid. I saw him Belmont night in the barn, and he looked terrific. McLaughlin is as good as any trainer in the world bringing them back, and you had to figure that in the early summer of his three year old year he'd be stronger than he was as a baby. Based on his proven ability going short at 2, that made/makes him eligible to be as good as any of the sprint specialists out there.

That's my take anyway..

Thanks... He sure looked the part the other day.

I just always take a jaundiced view of short-priced comebackers, notwithstanding what happened in the past or how highly a trainer speaks of his runner. Flower Alley also came back strong. Don't Get Mad did not. HH ran a super race but I'll still wait until he runs in a race where he has to work hard to beat a decent horse who also wants the same part of the track and/or holds off or collars a good one in the stretch. That said, he just appeared to glide over the track effortlessly.

[irishtrekker]

Don't know how bold this is, but Lava Man will go undefeated the rest of the season (even against FA) and take the older horse division and HOY.

I personally think the sprint division will be the most exciting this summer/fall. TMB, LITF, HH...I might give the edge to TMB for the BCS.

Now that I've used up my daily allocation of acronyms, it's back to my thesis. 10,000 words due by tomorrow...gaaah.

Rumspringa will win the BC Sprint.

I predict that Godolphin et al gets blanked on Cup Day and has no champions this year in the USA. I then predict that Joel and I get into it heavily as I gloat when Todd et al win at least one race and have at least one champ!

Originally Posted by boldruler

Rumspringa will win the BC Sprint.

You drinking already Ruler? I know its a holiday but I didn't have you pegged as a 9 Am drinker. You have to be drinking to make that prediction!!!

[SentToStud]

Well, yesterday I predicted they would set a new track record in the CD 9th at 7.5f. It happened. BFD. Bought a coke and a couple of Twinkies this morning. Still cost $2.