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Old 12-17-2016, 08:46 AM
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Arrow Annual Eclipse Award Discussion Thread
My Eclipse ballot..

Horse of the Year: 1st - California Chrome, 2nd - Songbird, 3rd - Arrogate

Two-Year-Old Male: 1st - Classic Empire, 2nd - Not This Time, 3rd - Oscar Performance (Practical Joke)
Two-Year-Old Filly: 1st - Champagne Room, 2nd - Abel Tasman (Lady Aurelia), 3rd - New Money Honey

Three-Year-Old Male: : 1st - Arrogate, 2nd - Gun Runner, 3rd - Connect (Nyquist; Exaggerator)
Three-Year-Old Filly: 1st - Songbird, 2nd - Cathryn Sophia, 3rd - Time and Motion (Queen's Trust)

Older Dirt Male: 1st - California Chrome, 2nd - Frosted, 3rd - Melatonin (Lord Nelson)
Older Dirt Female: 1st - Beholder, 2nd - Forever Unbridled (Cavorting), 3rd - Stellar Wind

Male Sprinter: 1st - Drefong, 2nd - A.P. Indian, 3rd - Lord Nelson
Female Sprinter: 1st - Finest City, 2nd - Haveyougoneaway, 3rd - Paulassilverlining

Male Turf Horse: 1st - Flintshire, 2nd - Tourist, 3rd - Midnight Storm (Highland Reel)
Female Turf Horse: 1st - Tepin, 2nd - Miss Temple City , 3rd - Lady Eli

Steeplechase Horse: 1st - Rawnaq, 2nd - Scorpiancer, 3rd - Top Striker

Owner: 1st - Klaravich Stables and William H. Lawrence, 2nd - Juddmonte Farms, 3rd - Reddam Racing (Ramsey; Spendthrift)
Breeder: 1st - Clearsky Farms, 2nd - WinStar Farm, 3rd - Charles Fipke (Darley)

Jockey: 1st - Mike Smith, 2nd - Jose Ortiz, 3rd - Javier Castellano
Apprentice Jockey: 1st - Lane Luzzi, 2nd - Kevin Gomez, 3rd - Luis Ocasio

Trainer: 1st - Chad Brown, 2nd - Bob Baffert, 3rd - Mark Casse
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Old 12-17-2016, 08:46 AM
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Default Use blank to fill out your own ballot..
Here's access to the info package for your ballots..

List your 1-2-3 selections below..

Eclipse Candidate Past Performances (Horses by category)

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Grade 1 Stakes Winners


Two-Year-Old Male:
Two-Year-Old Filly:

Three-Year-Old Male:
Three-Year-Old Filly:

Older Dirt Male:
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Male Sprinter:
Female Sprinter:

Male Turf Horse:
Female Turf Horse:
Steeplechase Horse:

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Owner:
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Jockey:
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Old 12-17-2016, 08:57 AM
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Eclipse Award for Radio/Media: Someone other than Steve Byk.
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Old 12-17-2016, 10:44 AM
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Eclipse Award for Radio/Media: Someone other than Steve Byk.
If only there was a future book!
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Old 12-17-2016, 11:21 AM
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You would definitely be considered " dead on the board."
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Old 12-17-2016, 09:13 PM
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Two-Year-Old Male:
Two-Year-Old Filly: Elate or Lockdown

Three-Year-Old Male: Arrogate
Three-Year-Old Filly:

Older Dirt Male:
Older Dirt Female:

Male Sprinter:
Female Sprinter:

Male Turf Horse:
Female Turf Horse:
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Horse of the Year: Arrogate

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Old 12-17-2016, 09:19 PM
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Finish the rest later.
Still thinking on the 3 year old filly choice ?
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Two-Year-Old Male: Classic Empire
Two-Year-Old Filly: Champagne Room

Three-Year-Old Male: Arrogate
Three-Year-Old Filly: Songbird

Older Dirt Male: California Chrome
Older Dirt Female: Beholder

Male Sprinter: Drefong
Female Sprinter: Haveyougoneaway

Male Turf Horse: Flintshire
Female Turf Horse: Tepin
Steeplechase Horse:

Horse of the Year: California Chrome

Owner: Juddmonte
Breeder: Ken RamsayDarley
Jockey: Javier Castellano
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Trainer: Chad Brown
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Two-Year-Old Male: Classic Empire
Two-Year-Old Filly: Champagne Room

Three-Year-Old Male: Arrogate
Three-Year-Old Filly: Songbird

Older Dirt Male: California Chrome
Older Dirt Female: Beholder

Male Sprinter: Defrong
Female Sprinter: Finest City

Male Turf Horse: Flintshire
Female Turf Horse: Tepin
Steeplechase Horse: Top Striker

Horse of the Year: California Chrome

Owner: Darley
Breeder: Winstar

Jockey: Javier Castellano
Apprentice Jockey: Luis Ocasio

Trainer: Bob Baffert
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I'm ok with all of it but sad to see Bob LeBeau not get a vote.
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Old 12-25-2016, 06:11 AM
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I'm ok with all of it but sad to see Bob LeBeau not get a vote.
A very nice sentiment Joe, but hard to put him ahead of anyone with just the Smithwick win to go on. After the slam dunk championship for Rawnaq, can't deny Scorpiancer and Top Striker their nods.

Scorpiancer won the G1 Lonesome Glory and enjoyed 3 more G1 placings including the narrow Grand National loss to Rawnaq at Far Hills.

Top Striker was the most improved hurdler of the year coming on late to win the G2 Zeke Ferguson and then the prestigious G1 Colonial.

Certainly won't forget Bob Le Beau though. A particularly good chaser over racetrack courses.
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Two-Year-Old Male: Classic Empire ~ Not This Time ~ Practical Joke

Two-Year-Old Filly: Pretty City Dancer ~ Valadorna ~ Miss Sky Warrior

Three-Year-Old Male: Arrogate ~ Gun Runner ~ Connect

Three-Year-Old Filly: Songbird ~ Cathryn Sofia ~ Carina Mia

Older Dirt Male: California Chrome ~ Frosted

Older Dirt Female: Beholder ~ Stellar Wind ~ Cavorting

Male Sprinter: A.P. Indian ~ Drefong ~ Lord Nelson

Female Sprinter: Paulassilverlining ~ Finest City ~ Haveyougoneaway

Male Turf Horse: Flintshire ~ Tourist ~ Da Big Hoss

Female Turf Horse: Lady Eli ~ Tepin ~ Found

Steeplechase Horse: Rawnaq

Horse of the Year: California Chrome ~ Songbird ~ Arrogate

Owner: Klaravich Stables, Inc. and Lawrence, William H.

Breeder: Clearsky Farms

Jockey: Jose Ortiz ~ Javier Castellano ~ Florent Geroux

Apprentice Jockey: Luis M. Ocasio

Trainer: Chad Brown ~ Mark Casse ~ Bob Baffert
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You are right Steve. Shame what happened to him. Just took a bad step. I thought he was really good.
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Must say that I'm surprised to see you guys picking Chrome as HOY and even more surprised by the ones that chose Songbird second.
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Must say that I'm surprised to see you guys picking Chrome as HOY and even more surprised by the ones that chose Songbird second.
Who would you pick as the real hoy? Masochistic?
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Must say that I'm surprised to see you guys picking Chrome as HOY and even more surprised by the ones that chose Songbird second.
Agree. Arrogate is clearly far and away the best horse to run this year. And his 2 giant G1 wins should be enough for HOY. Especially since one was against the main competition and he beat him on the square.
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Songbird had the best year....never losing on the track....should be hoss of the year as she was the only one who thoroughly beat her division
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Who would you pick as the real hoy? Masochistic?
If you say so. I'm still torn between Chome and Arrogate. I always try to go with who I think is the clear best horse. If there isn't a clear best, I try to chose best resume from the top contenders. I'd probably lean ever so slightly to Arrogate because of the head to head.
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Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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Songbird had the best year....never losing on the track....should be hoss of the year as she was the only one who thoroughly beat her division
Would you have also voted Pepper's Pride?
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