Greg Schiano's NFL career's death watch thread

Rudeboyelvis · #1 10-03-2013, 12:32 PM

He's got to go. Period. He's made a laughing stock of the city and a joke of the franchise.

Unfortunately, most of us saw this coming straight down Dale Mabry Blvd. 2 years ago:

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45357

this team has enough raw talent to be competitive in the division, now I'm not certain that they will even beat Jacksonville.

What a god-awful mess.

MaTH716 · #2 10-03-2013, 12:51 PM

Can't take credit for this as I saw someone post it on twitter.

Revis thought he was leaving the circus when he got traded away from the Jets.

Rudeboyelvis · #3 10-03-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Can't take credit for this as I saw someone post it on twitter.

Revis thought he was leaving the circus when he got traded away from the Jets.

Yeah, what a shame. Of course shelling out 19 mil for a cornerback when you had your mind made up last spring that Freeman wasn't your guy at QB is even more of a charlie foxtrot. The Glazers have never made a move mid season, and I don't expect them to now. This bye week could not have come at a worse time for both Mark Dominic and Greg Schiano.

>>>In speaking with agents of several Bucs players recently, I have sensed a common theme: There is an atmosphere of fear and distrust under the current regime in Tampa. Players have told their agents about coaches roaming through the locker room (typically the players' sanctuary away from coaches) and staff videotaping players on the sidelines during losses to single out players laughing or horsing around.<<<

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/10/...s-josh-freeman

This kind of stuff is coming out daily, and with another week and a half to go, its likely to boil over at some point.

randallscott35 · #4 10-03-2013, 01:08 PM

Wait you mean the Pros isn't like Rutgers?

MaTH716 · #5 10-03-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Yeah, what a shame. Of course shelling out 19 mil for a cornerback when you had your mind made up last spring that Freeman wasn't your guy at QB is even more of a charlie foxtrot. The Glazers have never made a move mid season, and I don't expect them to now. This bye week could not have come at a worse time for both Mark Dominic and Greg Schiano.

>>>In speaking with agents of several Bucs players recently, I have sensed a common theme: There is an atmosphere of fear and distrust under the current regime in Tampa. Players have told their agents about coaches roaming through the locker room (typically the players' sanctuary away from coaches) and staff videotaping players on the sidelines during losses to single out players laughing or horsing around.<<<

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/10/...s-josh-freeman

This kind of stuff is coming out daily, and with another week and a half to go, its likely to boil over at some point.

Bigs used to preach that the biggest problem the team has is it's owners.

declansharbor · #6 10-03-2013, 01:19 PM

The door just met Freeman's a$$.

MaTH716 · #7 10-03-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Wait you mean the Pros isn't like Rutgers?

Who knows, maybe Schiano can schedule the Bucs to play the likes of Coastal Carolina and Howard for a few weeks and try to get the train back on the tracks.

Rudeboyelvis · #8 10-03-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Bigs used to preach that the biggest problem the team has is it's owners.

They were completely overextended by purchasing Man U. This year seemed very different. Freeman actually looked good for all of 3 or 4 games last year (the last 2 were atrocious) and the ownership dedicated money they typically have not spent this year as they, again, look to have the right pieces in place to show up well.

They announced last week that "They anticipated 85% of the tickets will be sold for the balance of the season, so they lifted the local blackout rule".

They are going to spend millions more buying up all the empty seats.

There will be heads rolling.

randallscott35 · #9 10-03-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Who knows, maybe Schiano can schedule the Bucs to play the likes of Coastal Carolina and Howard for a few weeks and try to get the train back on the tracks.

But that's what so many of these college guys don't get. Grown men will not be pushed around. These guys can only abuse college kids because they don't know any better. And that is wrong.

Rudeboyelvis · #10 10-03-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Wait you mean the Pros isn't like Rutgers?

Rutgers was abysmal in an abysmal conference. Save West Virginia, there was nothing left in the conference when he was there. After his first season (where he went 2-11) Miami and Va Tech left. he amassed an eye popping record of 28-48 at Rutgers against Big East opponents.

Perhaps he was anticipating the Pro's would be easier than Rutgers, cuz he did absolutely nothing there either.

declansharbor · #11 10-03-2013, 01:29 PM

They called all 31 teams and no interest was there so they cut him.

There's always the CFL!

Rudeboyelvis · #12 10-03-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Wait you mean the Pros isn't like Rutgers?

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

They called all 31 teams and no interest was there so they cut him.

There's always the CFL!

Ouch. add another 6 million to the pile of wasted cash this year.

randallscott35 · #13 10-03-2013, 01:36 PM

Bring back Testaverde.

Duvalier · #14 10-03-2013, 01:46 PM

Freeman needed to go

hi_im_god · #15 10-03-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

They called all 31 teams and no interest was there so they cut him.

There's always the CFL!

he'll be on an nfl team. green bay needs a legit back up. jacksonville needs a starter. he'll land somewhere now that it costs the new team nothing other than whatever contact they sign. it's a good day to be josh freeman. he gets paid by tampa bay and his new team.

the guy broke no laws. whatever character issues may be there i'm sure his new team will convince itself they can fix

i have a hard time understanding why tampa handled this the way they did. they shot themselves in the head when it came to getting any value for freeman. very strange situation.

MaTH716 · #16 10-03-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

he'll be on an nfl team. green bay needs a legit back up. jacksonville needs a starter. he'll land somewhere now that it costs the new team nothing other than whatever contact they sign. it's a good day to be josh freeman. he gets paid by tampa bay and his new team.

the guy broke no laws. whatever character issues may be there i'm sure his new team will convince itself they can fix

i have a hard time understanding why tampa handled this the way they did. they shot themselves in the head when it came to getting any value for freeman. very strange situation.

GBBob · #17 10-03-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

he'll be on an nfl team. green bay needs a legit back up. jacksonville needs a starter. he'll land somewhere now that it costs the new team nothing other than whatever contact they sign. it's a good day to be josh freeman. he gets paid by tampa bay and his new team.

the guy broke no laws. whatever character issues may be there i'm sure his new team will convince itself they can fix

i have a hard time understanding why tampa handled this the way they did. they shot themselves in the head when it came to getting any value for freeman. very strange situation.

If you look at the numbers he put up when he was playing very well, it seems he is very capable and just needs the right situation...ie..anywhere other than Tampa. I think he'll be starting by end of this year or next for sure.

Rudeboyelvis · #18 10-03-2013, 02:56 PM

The fact that someone in the organization leaked Freeman's voluntary cooperation in the substance abuse program (has a prescription for Adderall) is so far over the line it's hard to fathom.
The team is fuc1<ed. Owners trying to get the NFLPA to buy in on HgH testing, and this comes out? I would not be surprised if the team get fined HUGE.

I'd to know what the odds on whether Schiano is the coach by the next game are.

jms62 · #19 10-06-2013, 05:45 AM

As a coach, what do you do given this scenario?

http://tbo.com/sports/bucs/bucs-beat...saga-20131005/

Duvalier · #20 10-06-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62

As a coach, what do you do given this scenario?

http://tbo.com/sports/bucs/bucs-beat...saga-20131005/

Freeman had to go. He was Radio Raheem's guy, for the QB of an NFL team to act the way he has, there are some major problems...not even counting his play on the field. On the field his completion percentage is below 50%. The telling thing in the whole Freeman mess is none of his teammates have said much to defend or stick up for him...especially the WRs on the team.