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clyde · #**1261** 08-07-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I've discovered the organizational philosophy clyde. Swing at everything. I've been talking about how much Fukodome gets on base?? Since he's come to Cleveland he's stopped walking...completely. Remember Sizemore as a young player?? He was very patient and walked a ton. By this year, he swings at everything humanly possible and no longer walks at all. They have another patient young hitter in Santana (let's not talk about his other flaws...that's another discussion altogether!!) but he takes a ton of pitches and walks all the time. We'll see how long that lasts. I'm guessing as time goes on, they'll get him to swing at everything too as they can't see that's not really a problem, he already strikes out a ton, so at least right now he's not swinging at too many balls. Their goal will be to get him to swing at MORE bad pitches. Hafner's walk rate has gone down through the years too.

I've always thought that was an individual thing...the K's but it's happening with player after player after player....more Ks, less walks. Peralta's K rate is WAY down this year...is it magic..or something else..he never hit or got on base as well as he did in 2005, the next 5 years...now he's back to that by magic?? I am starting to think we have some organizational coaching issues and hitting philosophy issues all the way through the organization.

!!OOOOOOOOOO!!

clyde · #**1262** 08-07-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I'm a stat nerd clyde and I have just now started to look closer at O-Bald-O. Oh my goodness. He has not pitched as well as Carlos Carrasco this year. You could even make a legitimate argument he has not pitched as well as Exhausto THIS YEAR!! He's got a slightly lower ERA, but Exhausto walks less guys and puts fewer guys on base than Obaldo too. The only difference is Obaldo gives up fewer home runs this year. That's been the big failure in Exhausto this year is the substantial increase in the long ball. But other than that you could argue with some support he's pitched as well as or even better than Obaldo. We actually traded our top two pitching prospects for a guy who isn't really pitching any better at all than the flippin 2011 version of Exhausto.

Furthermore in bringing him in, we sent down a guy who in 3 starts gave up 3 runs and 1 earned run with an ERA of 0.51. I know David Huff will not continue that, but criminy, really?? I'm not a fan of Huff, but I was a big fan of how he pitched when he got called up, and you reward a 0.51 ERA with a trip to Columbus?? Insane. You're gonna send him down because we brought Obaldo in?? I'm John Kerry/Mittens Romney on this trade...I was against it before I was for it, before I was against it again before I was hopeful for it before I was praying for miracles for it before I am now against it again!! You saw the light all along right from the start. I just needed to investigate some.

!!!!OOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Dahoss · #**1263** 08-07-2011, 02:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7KK7bXJV2c

clyde · #**1264** 08-07-2011, 04:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgxYUR1uTMA

horseofcourse · #**1265** 08-07-2011, 09:32 PM

deja vu clyde...we ain't scoriin in the 9th tonight!!!

horseofcourse · #**1266** 08-07-2011, 09:44 PM

my play by play tonight gonna be ground out- fly out -strikeout!! I ain't even gonna do it!!

horseofcourse · #**1267** 08-07-2011, 09:48 PM

Holy Jesus do I know this team.. ==!!!! That's exactly what they did

clyde · #**1268** 08-07-2011, 10:48 PM

!!!!

horseofcourse · #**1269** 08-08-2011, 08:10 AM

tiggers come to town. I think the city is prepared for the vaporization about to commence. Mercy killing. The final revenge of here's jhonny!

clyde · #**1270** 08-08-2011, 11:14 AM

It's There's Jhonny now,HC.

I think Dahla is letting us die the slow death;she wants to make sure it's slow and then final before she begins her profanity laced eulogy here.

clyde · #**1271** 08-08-2011, 11:34 AM

I have destroyed my Don Russ Indians team puzzle.

clyde · #**1272** 08-08-2011, 04:20 PM

Even with the addition of Ted Williams, we still don't hit....adding Jimenez and dropping Huff has devalued the starting pitching,the relief corps is flaming out..the Tribe is like 26 and 41 since the 30 and 15 start.....and they are in contention????

The AL Central is now the other side of the looking glass.

If I were one of the AL Central teams ,I would be doing my best to stay out of the playoffs so as not to be dismembered on a national scale.

This could be what Shapiro had in mind; I think it is.

He should be applauded for his brilliance in keeping his noodle while everyone else is losing theirs.

clyde · #**1273** 08-08-2011, 11:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU0Jp...1&feature=fvwp

slotdirt · #**1274** 08-09-2011, 08:35 AM

At least it won't be the Twins meekly going out of the playoffs again this year, right? I'd have to imagine either the Tigers or the Indians would give the Yankees or Red Sox a better fight than the Twinkies.

horseofcourse · #**1275** 08-09-2011, 06:33 PM

Odd number contest clyde. After this series the Tribe will be 1,3, 5, or 7 games back of the Tiggers. I'm gonna be the eternal optimist and say they'll be 5 games back.

clyde · #**1276** 08-09-2011, 07:30 PM

Put me down for 3...they love to make us be happy, only to yank out the rug.

horseofcourse · #**1277** 08-09-2011, 07:33 PM

Evidently it still rains in cleveland, updating box score still says 2nd inning. Maybe we'll see lots of Herrmann tonight. that can only mean good things.

clyde · #**1278** 08-09-2011, 09:05 PM

They're back to it, both starters out.

We got Durbin.

slotdirt · #**1279** 08-09-2011, 09:06 PM

Both the Injuns and Tiggers could have scored heaps more runs before the rains came. Probably a blessing that Master-fister-son were both removed after the rain delay.

clyde · #**1280** 08-09-2011, 09:10 PM

Strange gamer so far.Any game Durbin gets outs is strange.