Mullins/Gato Go Win SCR story emerging

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

no way a man with that face could be a cheat, i find it hard to believe.

the horse was just thirsty and wanted a malted drink, whats the deal here?

-bt-

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I've never been strip searched at security in any airport.

that's cuse you haven't been picked , they can't do it to everyone

but some people are asked to step into a room with their bag/s , they ain't going for coffe with the TSA

at least a body search could be done by a guard , the syringe would never have gotten through

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Am I missing something, or didn't the current system work? They got Mullins and the horse scratched.

he (mullins) never should have gotten in in the 1st place , that is my point

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

"Macho Macho Man, I've got to be a Macho Man"

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by gales0678

that's cuse you haven't been picked , they can't do it to everyone

but some people are asked to step into a room with their bag/s , they ain't going for coffe with the TSA

at least a body search could be done by a guard , the syringe would never have gotten through

I've been picked. They've gone through my bag, but never strip searched. When they found out I was a poster on Derby Trail, I had to give blood, a fingernail and one of the last few strands of hair left on my head. The guard wanted my Racing Form, I told him that was the one thing I wasn't giving up and he understood.

The system worked, they caught him, not sure what the complaint is.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I've been picked. They've gone through my bag, but never strip searched. When they found out I was a poster on Derby Trail, I had to give blood, a fingernail and one of the last few strands of hair left on my head. The guard wanted my Racing Form, I told him that was the one thing I wasn't giving up and he understood.

The system worked, they caught him, not sure what the complaint is.

see above - he shouldn't be able to walk in the front door is my point

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

he (mullins) never should have gotten in in the 1st place , that is my point

I think the connections have every right to check on their horses that are stuck in the detention barn for 6 hours. Unfortunately there are people in this world that want/have to cheat. And you could make every security upgrade to the barns that you want, but if they really want to cheat they will find a way.

[jwkniska]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

NYRA should put casino styled cameras in (pretty damn cheap these days) and put the feed online. Suspicious activities could be flagged and tapes could be reviewed. If they can spot someone switching dice or palming cards they can spot a syringe. Of course this will NEVER happen.

It makes sense... so there's no way it'll ever happen.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I think the connections have every right to check on their horses that are stuck in the detention barn for 6 hours. Unfortunately there are people in this world that want/have to cheat. And you could make every security upgrade to the barns that you want, but if they really want to cheat they will find a way.

agree with the right to check , but why not allow a NYRA gurad to search you and the groom before you go in ??

chuck you are a trainer how would you feel about this , how could it not help?

[sumitas]

I guess the casino type cameras would be most effective . Guards can be bought . After all , much of the skull duggery at the casinos is by the staff, as the cameras show .

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by sumitas

I guess the casino type cameras would be most effective . Guards can be bought . After all , much of the skull guggery at the casinos is by the staff, as the cameras show .

fair point - guards and cameras would be my vote

[DJARUM]

I seem to remember NYRA was highly criticized for the idea of a detention barn.
How many tracks besides NYRA tracks have detention barns, anybody know?

[DerbyCat]

Originally Posted by DJARUM

I seem to remember NYRA was highly criticized for the idea of a detention barn.
How many tracks besides NYRA tracks have detention barns, anybody know?

Golden Gate Fields has one...

[Kasept]

Mullins could face sanctions over Gato Go Win
By David Grening

http://www.drf.com/news/article/102770.html

Jeff Mullins, the trainer of potential Kentucky Derby favorite I Want Revenge, could face sanctions from the New York State Racing and Wagering Board after Mullins was observed giving Gato Go Win medication in the race-day security barn Saturday, necessitating the colt's scratch from the Grade 3 Bay Shore Stakes.

According to Joe Mahoney, a racing board spokesman, "Mr. Mullins was observed administering an over-the-counter product called Air Power to the horse in the security barn. He had also apparently taken a syringe into the security barn. As a result, the stewards directed that Gato Go Win be scratched."

Air Power is an expectorant that helps loosen phlegm and clear bronchial airways. One New York trainer likened it to a liquid form of Vick's VapoRub that can be given in most states, including New York, but it is not allowed to be given in the security barn. It is administered orally by use of a metal dose syringe. Mullins could face penalties because it is forbidden to bring anything into the race-day security barn, which the New York Racing Association instituted in 2005.

The board said the stewards did not deem it necessary to scratch I Want Revenge from the Wood Memorial - a race he won by 1 1/2 lengths despite a brutal trip.

"There was no incident involving I Want Revenge, who was under surveillance in the security barn prior to racing," said Mahoney.

[doll0608]

Just to clarify a few things about the detention barns at NYRA:

If you are one minute late to the detention barns you are fined and scratched.

Everything is searched when you go in...All bags are emptied, even your electric cords are checked.

There are security cameras in place in all barns.

You can only bring unopened drinks into the holding area. At first they wouldn't allow gatorade but they allow that now.

You have to have someone with your horse pretty much the whole time. There needs to be someone there for the pre-race vet exam, Lasix, and if you are in a race that is selected fro pre-race CO-2 testing.

As for having NYRA staff handling your horses, No way in hell. The horses are removed from their familiar surroundings and moved into total chaos. There are people moving around, horses in and out. They need someone there that knows the horse and knows how to keep them calm before they race.

[Kasept]

Thanks Cherie..

[dellinger63]

We're all concerned over the Airpower when "He had also apparently taken a syringe into the security barn." should be focussed on. What was in the syringe? And if empty who got the dose? How long till IWR's drug tests come back?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

We're all concerned over the Airpower when "He had also apparently taken a syringe into the security barn." should be focussed on. What was in the syringe? And if empty who got the dose? How long till IWR's drug tests come back?

"There was no incident involving I Want Revenge, who was under surveillance in the security barn prior to racing."

[Linny]

The syringe was to administer the Air Power, presumably...

[Linny]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve - this is defeating the purpose , can't nyra have it's own in house people walk these horse around for the 7 hrs

No one s/b allowed in the detention barn from the connections , its defeating the purposes or at the very least can't NYRA put a screener in place just like at the airport - how mullins is able to get in there with what he had is just a disater

NYRA doesn't employ grooms and or horsemen, just security to oversee everything. I sure wouldn't be handing my horse to some stranger and saying "I'll see you in the paddock for the G1 race in 6 hours..." They do check bags and boxes and totes etc that are brought in. Everyone from hotwalkers to trainers are supposed to be checked. A metal dosing syringe easily fits in the pocket of a jacket and since it was cold, no one would think a fairly heavy coat was odd. Not sure why they failed to check his pockets though.