Weekend Stakes Beyers: Unique Bella 96; Separationofpowers 86

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Trakus screwed up the Santa Anita Sprint Ch, is listed about 0.50 seconds too fast at every call.

Looks like the Beyer has been adjusted after Equibase changed the race time this morning.

after SA declares how they adjusted races 1 and 7 and fixed the timing problem immediately after the races, calling Craig and those that are questioning the times this weekend out in published statement on Twitter, then being told they still have it wrong, they have updated them again.

You cant make this stuff up.

Trakus has had issues all over the Country as Timeform has discovered over and over again (I assume the people at Beyer as well)...and as players Santa Anita, among others, has told us that there is nothing to see here, moving along.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Looks like the Beyer has been adjusted after Equibase changed the race time this morning.

after SA declares how they adjusted races 1 and 7 and fixed the timing problem immediately after the races, calling Craig and those that are questioning the times this weekend out in published statement on Twitter, then being told they still have it wrong, they have updated them again.

You cant make this stuff up.

Trakus has had issues all over the Country as Timeform has discovered over and over again (I assume the people at Beyer as well)...and as players Santa Anita, among others, has told us that there is nothing to see here, moving along.

The grandiose press release was full of pats on the back and assurances that this stuff is tight as a drum.

It's hard to time races because nobody wants to time them from when the gates open till they cross the wire. I just dont get it I never will. What could it be track records?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The grandiose press release was full of pats on the back and assurances that this stuff is tight as a drum.

It's hard to time races because nobody wants to time them from when the gates open till they cross the wire. I just dont get it I never will. What could it be track records?

In this industry, of which I was in for a time, there definitely a bit of a "this is the way its always been done" mentality.

If you try to challenge the accepted thought, in some cases, you will get a backlash.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

In this industry, of which I was in for a time, there definitely a bit of a "this is the way its always been done" mentality.

If you try to challenge the accepted thought, in some cases, you will get a backlash.

I will never give up with bad timing. I probably talk too much on other subjects and should put a sock in it at times, but never this one. Bettors deserve to have races timed accurately and to know the exact distance of the race. That shouldn't be too much to ask. I'm tired of tracks circling the wagons, like that silly press release, and pretending I don't know what I'm talking about.

If I say publicly a race was mistimed, you can be damn sure I've done my homework before saying it. The biggest problem the timing companies have now (and this isn't just Trakus) is that they don't know when they had a problem in many cases. They don't have the expertise to know that 1:08.68 for the Santa Anita Sprint Championship was worth investigating on that slow track.

http://www.drf.com/news/beyer-santa-...stakes-revised

The comments from the Trakus representative are downright laughable.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I will never give up with bad timing. I probably talk too much on other subjects and should put a sock in it at times, but never this one. Bettors deserve to have races timed accurately and to know the exact distance of the race. That shouldn't be too much to ask. I'm tired of tracks circling the wagons, like that silly press release, and pretending I don't know what I'm talking about.

If I say publicly a race was mistimed, you can be damn sure I've done my homework before saying it. The biggest problem the timing companies have now (and this isn't just Trakus) is that they don't know when they had a problem in many cases. They don't have the expertise to know that 1:08.68 for the Santa Anita Sprint Championship was worth investigating on that slow track.

http://www.drf.com/news/beyer-santa-...stakes-revised

The comments from the Trakus representative are downright laughable.

funny, I just pinged you on Twitter over that statement. If you would rather explain it here I understand.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

funny, I just pinged you on Twitter over that statement. If you would rather explain it here I understand.

What's to explain? Clearly the representative was spinning things. .3 seconds for a difference in a 13 foot difference in run-up is pretty big, and to say it isn't is farcical.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What's to explain? Clearly the representative was spinning things. .3 seconds for a difference in a 13 foot difference in run-up is pretty big, and to say it isn't is farcical.

It was tying the timing of the race to the run up and the time difference that I was completely confused by, those dynamics are well above my understanding of the timing of races.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

funny, I just pinged you on Twitter over that statement. If you would rather explain it here I understand.

The explanation is just more wagon circling. The gate was in the same place it always is for 6f races at SA, 85 feet. Clearly many of Trakus's issues come during the run up phase.

[Konk]

It is sad that the people who run Trakus do not car enough about their product to put forth half the effort CJ does to ensure the integrity of his own product.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I will never give up with bad timing. I probably talk too much on other subjects and should put a sock in it at times, but never this one. Bettors deserve to have races timed accurately and to know the exact distance of the race. That shouldn't be too much to ask. I'm tired of tracks circling the wagons, like that silly press release, and pretending I don't know what I'm talking about.

If I say publicly a race was mistimed, you can be damn sure I've done my homework before saying it. The biggest problem the timing companies have now (and this isn't just Trakus) is that they don't know when they had a problem in many cases. They don't have the expertise to know that 1:08.68 for the Santa Anita Sprint Championship was worth investigating on that slow track.

http://www.drf.com/news/beyer-santa-...stakes-revised

The comments from the Trakus representative are downright laughable.

What is a little scary is you alerted them that Saturday there was a problem, which they acknowledged by fixing races 1 and 7, but had no clue that race 6 had an issue as well.