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Old 07-09-2008, 12:51 AM
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That's hard to say but I would guess anything below even money.
I'd go a step further actually. I think at anything less than 2-1 he's a bet-against. Hope to see you out there Andrew.
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:02 AM
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Champs Elysses
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:11 AM
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Those horses probably have little chance against others, but EVERYBODY has a legitimate chance to beat Curlin. This is exactly a situation nobody should be afraid to try the champ.
The great Buckpasser was beaten in his only turf try.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:52 AM
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The excitement mounts for a great race. Affirmed Success won his first on turf I recall, a few years ago. Curlin's pedigree doesn't scream turf but I wouldn't bet against him.
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:04 AM
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I hope anybody able to attend Saturday does so, as this is an unmissable event, in a game with way to many humdrum big races.

I was hoping to get the chance..........

Hope it's fun for you guys.
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:09 AM
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Umm. . . he finished 6th last weekend at Monmouth.
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Old 07-09-2008, 02:00 PM
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Again, Einstein would have looked great being entered here. A real shame he won't get Curlin on his preferred surface and distance.
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Old 07-09-2008, 02:17 PM
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Again, Einstein would have looked great being entered here. A real shame he won't get Curlin on his preferred surface and distance.
don't they have the same owners/ interests? and the same licensing issues?-

Midnight Cry Stables owns all of Einstein and 20% of Curlin.

Einstein, I believe, is being pointed toward the Arlington Million
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Old 07-09-2008, 02:18 PM
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Umm. . . he finished 6th last weekend at Monmouth.
once again beaten as the fav.

this horse is the most over rated horse ive seen in quite a while
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Old 07-09-2008, 02:22 PM
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once again beaten as the fav.

this horse is the most over rated horse ive seen in quite a while
yup - it's all because of his family.
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Old 07-09-2008, 02:38 PM
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The whole plan may go up in smoke by the end of the weekend, but this path by the Curlin team is certainly one of the most interesting and ambitious things I've seen in horse racing in many years. I think the Arc is a longshot, but it is much more interesting than watching Curlin whip the subpar handicap division over here.
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Old 07-09-2008, 03:07 PM
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don't they have the same owners/ interests? and the same licensing issues?-

Midnight Cry Stables owns all of Einstein and 20% of Curlin.

Einstein, I believe, is being pointed toward the Arlington Million
Thanks that's interesting, never thought of that.
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:11 AM
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http://www.nyra.com/belmont/stories/Jul102008.shtml

This is what Asmussen said regarding the Man O' War this weekend and Curling trying turf for the first time.

"I think that is the question we want answered this weekend-whether Curlin is of the caliber to be considered for the Arc on the turf. Two previous Breeders Cup Turf winners should definitely give us that measure."


WTF is he smoking? Does he think if he beats BTN and Red Rocks that he can be competive in the Arc? That's laughable at best.
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:34 AM
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http://www.nyra.com/belmont/stories/Jul102008.shtml

This is what Asmussen said regarding the Man O' War this weekend and Curling trying turf for the first time.

"I think that is the question we want answered this weekend-whether Curlin is of the caliber to be considered for the Arc on the turf. Two previous Breeders Cup Turf winners should definitely give us that measure."


WTF is he smoking? Does he think if he beats BTN and Red Rocks that he can be competive in the Arc? That's laughable at best.
BTN = Nolan Ryan

Curlin = Robin Ventura
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:39 AM
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what Gr1 caliber turf horses has Assmussen trained? maybe there are plenty that I don't remember, but I really can't think of any.
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:44 AM
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http://www.nyra.com/belmont/stories/Jul102008.shtml

This is what Asmussen said regarding the Man O' War this weekend and Curling trying turf for the first time.

"I think that is the question we want answered this weekend-whether Curlin is of the caliber to be considered for the Arc on the turf. Two previous Breeders Cup Turf winners should definitely give us that measure."


WTF is he smoking? Does he think if he beats BTN and Red Rocks that he can be competive in the Arc? That's laughable at best.
......i think he knows ummm maybe a tad more than you al
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:46 AM
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......i think he knows ummm maybe a tad more than you al
funny thing is he wont beat red rocks
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:48 AM
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red rocks?? come on.......he laughs at that horse.
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:48 AM
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He'd have to beat Dancing Forever, off a 5th perfect inside trip in a row, to be considered ARC material.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:26 PM
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He might...MIGHT lay over this field on Sunday...and even if he does, I still think it gives no indication whatsoever if he is ready for the Arc. Completely different ballgame on that side of the pond.
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