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Old 06-29-2015, 05:12 AM
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SA Gold Cup at Santa Anita S (G1): Hard Aces 97 (Hard Spun) J. Sadler/V. Espinoza
SA Triple Bend S (G1): Masochistic 109 (Sought After) R. Ellis/T. Baze
SA Royal Heroine S (G2): Fanticola 93 (Silent Name-JPN) P. D'Amato/J. Talamo
SA Senorita S (G3): Prize Exhibit-GB 95 (Showcasing-GB) J. Cassidy/S. Gonzalez
SA San Juan Capistrano S (G3): Crucero 91 (Admiral's Cruise) J. Desormeaux/K. Desormeaux

PRM Cornhusker H (G3): Golden Lad 100 (Medaglia d'Oro) T. Pletcher/J. Castellano
PRM Iowa Derby(G3): Bent On Bourbon 93 (Arch) E. Kenneally/J. Castellano
PRM Iowa Oaks (G3): Sarah Sis 81 (Sharp Humor) I. Mason/J. Felix
PRM Iowa Sprint H: Delaunay 99 (Smoke Glacken) T. Amoss/R. Vazquez
PRM Saylorville S: Ghost Locket 91 (Ghostzapper) D. Von Hemel/S. Laviolette
PRM Iowa Distaff S: Diva's Diamond 82 (Crafty Shaw) K. Broberg/R. Vazquez

BEL Mother Goose S (G1): Include Betty 85 (Include) T. Proctor/D. Van Dyke
BEL Dancin Renee S: La Verdad 101 (Yes It's True) L. Rice/J. Ortiz

CD Firecracker S (G2): Departing 88 (War Front) A. Stall/M. Mena
CD Bashford Manor S (G3): He's Comin in Hot 72 (Early Flyer) W. Calhoun/J. Theriot
CD Debutante S: Cosmic Evolution 58 (Proud Citizen) L. Wiggins/C. Borel
CD Kelly's Landing S: Viva Majorca 97 (Tiago) I. Wilkes/B. Hernandez

MTH Eatontown S (G3): I'm Already Sexy 95 (Ready's Image) W. Catalano/P. Lopez
MTH Mr. Prospector S: Salutos Amigos 107 (Salute the Sarge) D. Jacobson C. Velasquez

OTP Oak Tree Distaff S: Tribal Gal 74 (Tribal Rule) R. Owens/R. Gonzalez

WO Zadracarta S: Surtsey 91 (Heatseeker-IRE) K. Attard/O. Moreno
WO My Dear S: Come to Mischief 78 (Into Mischief) N. Gonzalez/T. Pizarro

PRX Turning for Home S: Edge of Reality 101 (Lawyer Ron) H. Motion F. Pennington

TDN J. William Petro Memorial H: Bold Cait 72 (Sun King) E. Reed/E. Paucar
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Old 06-29-2015, 12:16 PM
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Was Jerry D. Bailey actually better than Castellano?
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Old 06-29-2015, 12:49 PM
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Was Jerry D. Bailey actually better than Castellano?
Different league IMO only Ramon and Cordero are in Bailey's league. I didnt see a lot of Pincay..

Lots of jocks have "in the zone" runs only a few stay in it over a career.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:37 PM
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Javier is the best in the game since Ramon hung it up and it's not really close.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:43 PM
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Was Jerry D. Bailey actually better than Castellano?
TONS better.

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Javier is the best in the game since Ramon hung it up and it's not really close.
You're right, and that says as much about the rest of the riders in the country as it does his performance over the last 2 years.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:20 PM
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Javier is the best in the game since Ramon hung it up and it's not really close.
It's closer then you think.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:21 PM
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Was Jerry D. Bailey actually better than Castellano?
Bailey has GOAT status. Kinda like Bob.
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:16 PM
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Javier is the best in the game since Ramon hung it up and it's not really close.
You don't think Junior Alvarado is even close?
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:17 PM
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You don't think Junior Alvarado is even close?
Junior, Lezcano, Maragh and JV are all as good. Both Ortiz brothers will be.
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:32 PM
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Junior, Lezcano, Maragh and JV are all as good. Both Ortiz brothers will be.
You kind of went for it there.
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:34 PM
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You kind of went for it there.
Not really. He is more then capable.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:13 PM
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Bailey has GOAT status. Kinda like Bob.
Bailey was a master on Turf and Dirt. Bob Baffert is a master on dirt NOT turf.
As much as Baffert has had success on Dirt races, he is almost absent in any mention of him being a great turf trainer.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:15 PM
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Bailey was a master on Turf and Dirt. Bob Baffert is a master on dirt NOT turf.
As much as Baffert has had success on Dirt races, he is almost absent in any mention of him being a great turf trainer.
I don't think turf racing is relevant at all when discussing Bob's credentials. American Classics are all on dirt. Most of are horses are bred for dirt. The big sire making races are all run on dirt.
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:47 PM
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Junior, Lezcano, Maragh and JV are all as good. Both Ortiz brothers will be.
There's that East Coast bias again...
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:52 PM
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There's that East Coast bias again...
Who on the West Coast then? Maybe Victor, maybe Talmo, but I don't think he's the yet. Sometimes Garcia even butchers Bob's rocket ships, so not him.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:24 AM
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Jerry Bailey was the Michael Jordan of jockeys
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:26 AM
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Jerry Bailey was the Michael Jordan of jockeys
They changed the rules for him and he was allowed to travel, throw elbows and get away with being a jerk?
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:08 AM
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They changed the rules for him and he was allowed to travel, throw elbows and get away with being a jerk?
How dare you speak ill of a jockey.
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Old 06-30-2015, 12:33 PM
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You don't think Junior Alvarado is even close?
Junior is terrific and so is Lezcano. But they don't do it consistently on both surfaces like Javier does.
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Old 07-04-2015, 02:11 PM
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Dynamite ride by Junior on Samraat...
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