8/1 (MTH): Haskell (G1), Oceanport & Matchmaker (G3's)

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Gotta agree there SS will be bet but unless a horse with early speed enters Ice Box is just gonna be forgot about

Still would be nice to get 2 more horses in this field but who knows?

I don't think so.
Everyone know how magical Borel is at CD and, SS stunk up Pimlico.
I wouldn't surprised if the Preakness exacta is repeated here.

[RockHardTen1985]

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

He'll be the favorite. You aren't saying much

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

He'll be the favorite. You aren't saying much

Randy this is not a one race prediction. Its a 3yr old championship prediction, for a class/crop that is WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW. He might be the favorite, but he might not be. If he is, it will be around 5-2 not odds on or anything like that.

[Sightseek]

You just can't fly a horse over the Rockies that often and expect to win the Haskell.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Randy this is not a one race prediction. Its a 3yr old championship prediction, for a class/crop that is WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW. He might be the favorite, but he might not be. If he is, it will be around 5-2 not odds on or anything like that.

Again you aren't saying much of anything here. But be my guest.

[hockey2315]

Trappe Shot won't be favored. Mine That Bird was just favored in the Firecracker. . . enough said.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Again you aren't saying much of anything here. But be my guest.

Ok Randy. This is as wide open as its ever been. 3 different triple crown winners, none of the major triple crown prep winners are even relevant right now. Sometimes I think your retarded, but then its clear you cant help yourself and do it on purpose.

PS- Do you like my Avatar? I thought out of everyone you would love it the most.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Trappe Shot won't be favored. Mine That Bird was just favored in the Firecracker. . . enough said.

I agree, they always make the Derby winner the favorite in his first race after the Triple Crown.

I can't see Super Saver going off higher than 3-1. He will take every casual dollar that's out there from people who look at the program and remember "Hey that horse won the Kentucky Derby so he must be good enough to win this race!"

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I agree, they always make the Derby winner the favorite in his first race after the Triple Crown.

I can't see Super Saver going off higher than 3-1. He will take every casual dollar that's out there from people who look at the program and remember "Hey that horse won the Kentucky Derby so he must be good enough to win this race!"

I can't see a way on earth LAL isn't favored. Think about it. He was the Derby fave. He was the same price as the Derby winner in the Preakness and SS ran horribly. He's a clear 2-1 or less in here at post.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I can't see a way on earth LAL isn't favored. Think about it. He was the Derby fave. He was the same price as the Derby winner in the Preakness and SS ran horribly. He's a clear 2-1 or less in here at post.

Without getting into the odds on everyone...

Lucky 2-1

Saver 5-2,3-1

Trappe Shot 3-1,7-2

Someone really good is ignored....
Likely Ice Box, who is hopeless anyway.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Without getting into the odds on everyone...

Lucky 2-1

Saver 5-2,3-1

Trappe Shot 3-1,7-2

Someone really good is ignored....
Likely Ice Box, who is hopeless anyway.

I prefer Our Dark Knight to Ice Box, yes.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I prefer Our Dark Knight to Ice Box, yes.

LOL we agree on that.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

Have to agree with you here. Lucky will beat these horses. I still think Twirling Candy is the best three year old but won't have enough races under his belt.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

I still think Twirling Candy is the best three year old but won't have enough races under his belt.

Based on what: running down Macias? How about this horse actually beats something, and covers a real distance of ground first? I realize there's really nothing out there but he's not even in the discussion yet.

[tjfla]

Too make it even better it seems Concord Point is possible for the race

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Too make it even better it seems Concord Point is possible for the race

Now he is SERIOUS. If he comes everything changes. I dont see why Bob would not send him to the Jim Dandy.

[Sightseek]

Why does everyone think Ice Box is totally hopeless? I'm unsure whether I would use him on Sunday, especially since the field hasn't even been drawn, but I don't think he is as bad as his Belmont race.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Now he is SERIOUS. If he comes everything changes. I dont see why Bob would not send him to the Jim Dandy.

As a rabbit for Lucky

[tjfla]

Ya thats where I thought he was headed too but have seen 3 websites mention him as possible for the Haskell and nothing about him to the Jim Dandy