Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Stakes Archive
Reload this Page Past Week's Stakes Beyers
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-08-2008, 10:26 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,604
Default Past Week's Stakes Beyers
WO Mile: Rahy's Attorney 107
N. Dancer: Champs Elysees 98
Canadian: J'ray 99

Garden City: Backseat Rhythm 96
Ruffian: Tough Tiz's Sis 113 ( Previous three Beyers: 97-96-94 )

Lassie: C.S. Silk 84
Pucker Up: Closeout 95

Endine: Sweet Hope 101

TP Fall Championship: Delightful Kiss 90

Seaway: Akronism 98

DMR Futurity: Midshipman 85
DMR Debutante: Starbound Bound 87

PA Derby: Anak Nakal 101

Glens Falls: Hostess 100
Hopeful: Vineyard Haven 84
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Last edited by Kasept : 09-09-2008 at 07:45 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-08-2008, 10:55 AM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Garden City: Backseat Rhythm 96
Ruffian: Tough Tiz's Sis 113 ( Previous three Beyers: 97-96-94 )

Lassie: C.S. Silk 84
Pucker Up: Closeout 95

Endine: Sweet Hope 101

TP Fall Championship: Delightful Kiss 90

Seaway: Akronism 98

DMR Futurity: Midshipman 85
DMR Debutante: Starbound Bound 87

PA Derby: Anak Nakal 101

Glens Falls: Hostess 100
Hopeful: Vineyard Haven 84
"Ruffian: Tough Tiz's Sis 113 ( Previous three Beyers: 97-96-94 )"

Its in the slop so this one may not be the same argument but just about every horse that goes from Synthetic to Dirt and wins somehow gets much faster. Beyer does not have a grasp of the synthetic surfaces, and frankly here is hoping he never does!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-08-2008, 10:59 AM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
"Ruffian: Tough Tiz's Sis 113 ( Previous three Beyers: 97-96-94 )"

Its in the slop so this one may not be the same argument but just about every horse that goes from Synthetic to Dirt and wins somehow gets much faster. Beyer does not have a grasp of the synthetic surfaces, and frankly here is hoping he never does!
Thing is, Tough Tiz's Sis had run 11 races on dirt before Saturday and had a top figure of 95, so I don't think that argument makes much sense here.

Plus, she was beaten 6 1/4 lengths last time out and got a 97. How high did you want her figure to be?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-08-2008, 07:43 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Thing is, Tough Tiz's Sis had run 11 races on dirt before Saturday and had a top figure of 95, so I don't think that argument makes much sense here.

Plus, she was beaten 6 1/4 lengths last time out and got a 97. How high did you want her figure to be?
thats why I said this case may not be the best argument...I would argue thought she is better the past 16 months then previous form. I am sure a data base guy could prove it out but thats not me....Its related to the pace and I will leave it at that.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-08-2008, 11:25 PM
stonegossard stonegossard is offline
Sheepshead Bay
  
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,115
Default
What....did Byk's girlfriend leave him for Frankel.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-09-2008, 12:43 AM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Garden City: Backseat Rhythm 96
Ruffian: Tough Tiz's Sis 113 ( Previous three Beyers: 97-96-94 )

Lassie: C.S. Silk 84
Pucker Up: Closeout 95

Endine: Sweet Hope 101

TP Fall Championship: Delightful Kiss 90

Seaway: Akronism 98

DMR Futurity: Midshipman 85
DMR Debutante: Starbound Bound 87

PA Derby: Anak Nakal 101

Glens Falls: Hostess 100
Hopeful: Vineyard Haven 84

DMR Futurity: Midshipman 85
DMR Debutante: Starbound Bound 87

I think both these horses are pretty nice, hard to believe they are so far behind their east coast counterparts....on figures that is.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-09-2008, 07:44 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 42,604
Default
SUNDAY'S WOODBINE STAKES

WO Mile: Rahy's Attorney 107
N. Dancer: Champs Elysees 98
Canadian: J'ray 99
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-09-2008, 09:22 AM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
SUNDAY'S WOODBINE STAKES

WO Mile: Rahy's Attorney 107
N. Dancer: Champs Elysees 98
Canadian: J'ray 99
Beyers aside, The most impressive performance on the day by far was by J'ray.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-09-2008, 11:37 AM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
  
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default
Why does Rahy need an attorney?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-09-2008, 12:08 PM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Why does Rahy need an attorney?
I laughed.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-09-2008, 01:18 PM
the_fat_man's Avatar
the_fat_man the_fat_man is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,676
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
Beyers aside, The most impressive performance on the day by far was by J'ray.
thank you
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-09-2008, 01:45 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
Beyers aside, The most impressive performance on the day by far was by J'ray.

you mean you were not impressed with the Northern Dancer?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-10-2008, 12:57 AM
letswastemoney's Avatar
letswastemoney letswastemoney is offline
The Curragh
  
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Turlock, CA
Posts: 2,561
Default
synthetic beyers are on a 3rd surface. they are never supposed to have the same beyers as dirt...they will always be lower on average
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-10-2008, 01:21 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
synthetic beyers are on a 3rd surface. they are never supposed to have the same beyers as dirt...they will always be lower on average
one can only hope
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-10-2008, 06:46 PM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
you mean you were not impressed with the Northern Dancer?
Champs Elysees is burdened by the high expectations from his highly regarded breeding has brought upon him...Objectively speaking if he was John Doe I guess we would say he is a good horse who just won a grade 1, afterall he beat a pretty decent world class horse in Quijano. So yes perhaps he is unfairly ridiculed at times, I know I have been guilty of that in the past.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-10-2008, 06:47 PM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_fat_man
thank you
Your welcome I think...
Reply With Quote
Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:33 AM.

Contact Us - Derby Trail Steve Byk Steve’s Notes DT Stables DT Shoppe Gallery Contact Links Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.