Mullins/Gato Go Win SCR story emerging

[geeker2]

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[Honu]

The syringe was prolly his , not kidding or joking .

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Really, has that been prosecuted before in New York?

If so, who were the owner(s) and trainer involved?

It has, but here is the thing about prosecutions. A story about a trainer at Aqueduct bringing a syringe into a detention barn does not attract much attention from a DA's Office. However, when that trainer runs what looks to be the Kentucky Derby morning line favorite a few races later, that is something that could make headlines and hence, a name for that prosecutor. This could get a lot more scrutiny than the average trainer being caught.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Linny

I wonder if his bringing a syring to the D-barn could have prevented IWR from even running. He got caught over the Bay Shore colt but did he have one there for IWR too?
Could the stewards just said that as "the trainer of IWR has an illegal substance and delivery method" we must scratch all his horses.

Now that would effect handle too much, why would they do that?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/sp...ef=othersports

so, that's three stories in the last few days about the bad guys in the sport. that's just grand. i'm so glad we have such paragons of virtue as ernie paragallo and jeff mullins to give racing a couple of black eyes heading into this years derby, the time when the press pays the most attention to horse racing.
gotta love the quote from iavarone-'it's not performance enhancing'. oh, ok. guess they should have let the horse run.

[CSC]

Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm not shocked. I see Dutrow & Big Brown mentioned in this thread, yet you rarely hear of Asmussen and Curlin. Regardless it always seems to be the same usual suspects, however using common sense I would say they are certainly not the only ones.

[dellinger63]

Thought it interesting the owners were part of selling the greatest horse ever

The Green Monkey

On the sales scene, Hartley/De Renzo has been one of America's most successful pinhooking operations for more than 15 years and they continue to participate actively in that segment of the industry. Outstanding racehorses sold by Hartley/De Renzo include champions Silver Charm and Xtra Heat. Their agency also consigned the world-record $16-million juvenile The Green Monkey at the 2006 Fasig-Tipton Calder sale of selected two-year-olds in training.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/sta...farm_no=162907

[sumitas]

Are you suggesting The Green Monkey's performance at the sale was not on the up and up ?

[dellinger63]

Despite his troubled trip in Saturday’s 85th running of the Grade 1, nine-furlong Wood Memorial, IEAH Stables and David J. Lanzman’s I Want Revenge was feeling no ill-effects on Sunday morning.

“He came out the race real well,” said trainer Jeff Mullins, sipping a Red Bull outside of trainer Tony Dutrow’s barn at Aqueduct Racetrack. “We had him out this morning, went over him from head to toe, and everything looks good.” ie no visible needle marks

http://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/stories...04052009.shtml

[gales0678]

How does a major track setup a detenion barn and then allow a trainer in there?

How does that happen , how did he even get in there? Where was security?

[Kasept]

Trainers are allowed in the detention barn. As are the assistants and/or grooms that stay with the horse the whole 6 hours. The horses aren't in solitary confinement. Horses get walked, etc.

[gales0678]

steve - this is defeating the purpose , can't nyra have it's own in house people walk these horse around for the 7 hrs

No one s/b allowed in the detention barn from the connections , its defeating the purposes or at the very least can't NYRA put a screener in place just like at the airport - how mullins is able to get in there with what he had is just a disater

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve - this is defeating the purpose , can't nyra have it's own in house people walk these horse around for the 7 hrs

And when said horse flips over... does NYRA want the lawsuit? Heck no...

[randallscott35]

Mullins simply missed the "No Syringes" sign on the way into the detention barn. No biggie.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

And when said horse flips over... does NYRA want the lawsuit? Heck no...

fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve - this is defeating the purpose , can't nyra have it's own in house people walk these horse around for the 7 hrs

No one s/b allowed in the detention barn from the connections , its defeating the purposes or at the very least can't NYRA put a screener in place just like at the airport - how mullins is able to get in there with what he had is just a disater

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Mullins simply missed the "No Syringes" sign on the way into the detention barn. No biggie.

somehow i think the only sign there is the one that points you to the Belt Pkwy

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

I've never been strip searched at security in any airport.

[dellinger63]

NYRA should put casino styled cameras in (pretty damn cheap these days) and put the feed online. Suspicious activities could be flagged and tapes could be reviewed. If they can spot someone switching dice or palming cards they can spot a syringe. Of course this will NEVER happen.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

Am I missing something, or didn't the current system work? They got Mullins and the horse scratched.