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Old 04-23-2018, 02:38 PM
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Arrow 5/4 (CD): 144th Kentucky Oaks Day





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Old 04-24-2018, 11:30 AM
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Helluva race.
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Old 04-24-2018, 03:37 PM
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Helluva race.
I think so too
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Old 04-24-2018, 05:19 PM
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144th Kentucky Oaks

1. Blamed (Joel Marr/Ken Tohill)
2. Chocolate Martini (Tom Amoss/TBA)
3. Classy Act (Bret Calhoun/TBA)
4. Coach Rocks (Dale Romans/Luis Saez)
5. Eskimo Kisses (Ken McPeek/TBA)
6. Midnight Bisou (Bill Spawr/TBA)
7. Monomoy Girl (Brad Cox/Florent Geroux)
8. My Miss Lilly (Mark Hennig/Joe Bravo)
9. Patrona Margarita (Bret Calhoun/TBA)
10. Rayya (Bob Baffert/Drayden Van Dyke)
11. Sassy Sienna (Brad Cox/Gary Stevens)
12. Take Charge Paula (KMc/TBA)
13. Wonder Gadot (Mark Casse/John Velazquez)
14. Red Ruby (Kellyn Gorder/TBA) ~ Possible
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Exuberance (Ian Kruljac/TBA)
Heavenhasmynikki (Anthony Quartarolo/TBA)
Kelly’s Humor (Brad Cox/TBA)

Comes down to three ....... 10 - 6 - 7 with 4-5-12-13 in the superfecta (from this list)
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Old 04-24-2018, 05:33 PM
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Default Free Oaks & Derby parking passes

I've got one set of parking passes at the Kentucky Expo Center for Oaks & Derby days if anyone can use them. You can walk or take the free shuttle to CD from there. Please private message me ONLY if you are definitely going to the races and don't have parking yet.
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Old 04-30-2018, 09:08 AM
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Was hoping to see Dabster in the Churchill Downs.
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Old 04-30-2018, 11:11 AM
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144th Kentucky Oaks

1. Sassy Sienna (Brad Cox/Gary Stevens) 15-1
2. Coach Rocks (Dale Romans/Luis Saez) 12-1
3. Classy Act (Bret Calhoun/B.J. Hernandez Jr.) 15-1
4. Chocolate Martini (Tom Amoss/J.J. Castellano) 12-1
5. Wonder Gadot (Mark Casse/John Velazquez) 20-1
6. Kelly's Humor (Brad Cox/Irad Ortiz) 30-1
7. Rayya (Bob Baffert/Drayden Van Dyke) 15-1
8. Heavenhasmynikki (Anthony Quartarolo/Calvin Borel) 30-1
9. Take Charge Paula (KMc/Jose Ortiz) 15-1
10. Midnight Bisou (Bill Spawr/Mike Smith) 5-2
11. My Miss Lilly (Mark Hennig/Joe Bravo) 10-1
12. Patrona Margarita (Bret Calhoun/Ricardo Santana) 30-1
13. Eskimo Kisses (Ken McPeek/Corey Lanerie) 15-1
14. Monomoy Girl (Brad Cox/Florent Geroux) 2-1
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Old 04-30-2018, 11:38 AM
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favorite is a nice horse but liking Wonder Gadot at 20-1 and My Miss Lilly at 10-1
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Old 04-30-2018, 01:10 PM
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I dont think i've EVER seen (esp in a 14 horse race) where only 2 horses are below 10-1 in the morning lines. 2/1, 5/2, and then a loooooong way down to 10-1. If you can get past the two favorites, i can see at least 2-3 other horses that will be less than 10-1 come post time. My Miss Lilly, Coach Rocks, and Rayya would be 3 of them, imo.
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Old 04-30-2018, 01:14 PM
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I don’t think we see 15-1 on the 13 hoss or 10- 1 on the hennig
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Old 04-30-2018, 01:15 PM
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The dollar super in here is worth taking a big shot . whole Lotta value Rosie
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Old 04-30-2018, 03:16 PM
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OAKS DAY O/N: http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbH...C-CD-20180504D

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Old 04-30-2018, 04:22 PM
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I should know this - but do most ADWs show the Oaks/Derby probables as betting is going on Friday afternoon?

Do these exist or are we stuck with will-pays only after the Oaks is run?
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Old 04-30-2018, 06:24 PM
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What a great card. One quick question though. Why the allowance as race 9? Only sane reasoning I can come up with is to accommodate TV scheduling.

I’ve seen a lot of complaints of late (not necessarily on here) when major tracks go postward the same time or way too close together. I dont mind that so much. But what I really don’t get is when they stick an allowance race in the middle of a stakes rich card like this. Makes my head want to explode. Just my personal pet peeve.

Still a great card. Good luck to everyone.
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Old 04-30-2018, 07:28 PM
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I dont think i've EVER seen (esp in a 14 horse race) where only 2 horses are below 10-1 in the morning lines. 2/1, 5/2, and then a loooooong way down to 10-1. If you can get past the two favorites, i can see at least 2-3 other horses that will be less than 10-1 come post time. My Miss Lilly, Coach Rocks, and Rayya would be 3 of them, imo.
Noticed this also very unusual
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:39 AM
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favorite is a nice horse but liking Wonder Gadot at 20-1 and My Miss Lilly at 10-1
Ditto......I feel the same way..lol
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:20 AM
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I dont think i've EVER seen (esp in a 14 horse race) where only 2 horses are below 10-1 in the morning lines. 2/1, 5/2, and then a loooooong way down to 10-1. If you can get past the two favorites, i can see at least 2-3 other horses that will be less than 10-1 come post time. My Miss Lilly, Coach Rocks, and Rayya would be 3 of them, imo.
The 9 isn't impossible
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Old 05-01-2018, 08:33 PM
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Has Casse given any indication where he is leaning with Awesome Slew? Distance aside, he has a much better chance of running down Always Dreaming than he does Imperial Hint
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:57 AM
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favorite is a nice horse but liking Wonder Gadot at 20-1 and My Miss Lilly at 10-1
I got MMl at 12/1....she dropped to 10/1 about 20 minutes after I placed my wager
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