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Old 09-18-2014, 11:41 AM
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hardly. how much did they pay for him ?
It was sarcasm.
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Old 09-18-2014, 11:50 AM
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Old 09-18-2014, 03:28 PM
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It would be a monstrous blow to the American stud industry if he were whisked away to Japan.
Well someone was on quite the roll this morning...
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:52 AM
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Default Crist on betting Chrome

A bad bet, historically on Derby returnees.

http://www.drf.com/news/crist-histor...chrome-bad-bet
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Old 09-19-2014, 08:55 AM
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A bad bet, historically on Derby returnees.

http://www.drf.com/news/crist-histor...chrome-bad-bet

from Crist's article: "Since 1980, six of the eight horses in his exact position – returning to the races after winning the Derby and Preakness and losing the Belmont – have lost their comeback race, most of them at short odds. "

This apparently arbitrary 1980 cutoff made me immediately think that the next one back would have been bad for the thesis. Sure enough, in 1979 Spectacular Bid came back to win the Haskell. Granted, he didn't add much to the ROI of the "return" bet.

I couldn't find out how Cananero II, the one before Spectacular Bid, had fared in his return.

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Old 09-19-2014, 04:55 PM
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from Crist's article: "Since 1980, six of the eight horses in his exact position – returning to the races after winning the Derby and Preakness and losing the Belmont – have lost their comeback race, most of them at short odds. "

This apparently arbitrary 1980 cutoff made me immediately think that the next one back would have been bad for the thesis. Sure enough, in 1979 Spectacular Bid came back to win the Haskell. Granted, he didn't add much to the ROI of the "return" bet.

I couldn't find out how Cananero II, the one before Spectacular Bid, had fared in his return.

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The Bid returned after the Belmont in an allowance race at Delaware Park, set a track record, won by 17 lengths and paid a nickel on the dollar with the Shoe on him for the first time. The Belmont winner won the Haskell. As a 4 yo he won the Amory L. Haskell H. for 3yo and up, now known as the Iselin H.
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:22 PM
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I don't see Untapable losing.

I'm less certain of California Chrome's chances. Bayern having to endure pressure from C J's Awesome and possibly Protonico may not be signifcant, but I also could see Espinoza on Chrome deciding he should duel with Bayern rather than let him slip away.
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Old 09-20-2014, 06:23 AM
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Any PA people around here and, if so, wanna volunteer to head to the track and take some of CC's nasal strips and use them to cover that imbecile owners mouth?

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Old 09-20-2014, 12:48 PM
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Is this thing on TV somewhere other than HRTV?
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Old 09-20-2014, 04:24 PM
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Watch out for Tapiture!
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Old 09-20-2014, 04:50 PM
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They didn't go fast enough for him to have a chance to close, but Tapiture ran well.
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