8/14-15 (DMR): La Jolla H. (G2); John C. Mabee S. (G2)

[Kasept]

9th (6:00) La Jolla H. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Leroy's Dynameaux Bejarano R 118 L
2 Sidney's Candy Rosario J 121 L
3 Macias Garcia M 118 L
4 Summer Movie Espinoza V 116 L
5 Kid Edward (IRE) Flores D R 115 L
6 Face and an Ace Blanc B 115 L
7 Golden Itiz Valenzuela P A 118 L
8 Alphie's Bet Smith M E 119 L

[Kasept]

8th (5:30) John C. Mabee S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Wasted Tears Maragh R 121
2 Lilly Fa Pootz Rosario J 119 L
3 Spring Style (IRE) Valenzuela P A 119 L
4 Gotta Have Her Smith M E 121 L
5 Turning Top (IRE) Blanc B 119 L
6 Princess Haya Bejarano R 121 L
7 Gozzip Girl Leparoux J R 121 L
8 Oui Say Oui (IRE) Espinoza V 119 L

[herkhorse]

Anyone have a single for me in the Mabee?

[golfer]

The way the turf course played yesterday (although I realize they only ran 2 races), hard to imagine Wasted Tears getting beat on the lead.

[CSC]

I am really curious how Gozzip Girl runs in here on the big trainer switch to the king of upgrades Martin Wolfson, though this race is not in the east and more particular not in Florida. She may or may not be vulnerable.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by CSC

I am really curious how Gozzip Girl runs in here on the big trainer switch to the king of upgrades Martin Wolfson, though this race is not in the east and more particular not in Florida. She may or may not be vulnerable.

Nothing like having an opinion...

[declansharbor]

Wasted Tears looked like a fine specimen of horse flesh yesterday on TVG.

[CSC]

Wolfson is far more effective in Florida, or certainly all of his biggest wins have come on the east coast. He's got a nice shipping % but it is a negative ROI. I surmise she will be overbet today with Leparioux making the trek out west.

[pucknut]

wasted tears is arguably the best turf female in the country
proviso her main competetion
she gets tested today but the post the turf and her speed she should go gate to wire
crown her champ out west and lets see a proviso wasted showdown

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by CSC

Wolfson is far more effective in Florida, or certainly all of his biggest wins have come on the east coast. He's got a nice shipping % but it is a negative ROI. I surmise she will be overbet today with Leparioux making the trek out west.

He actually has a better ROI outside of Florida in the last five years than he does in Florida, by about $0.19, and it's a positive ROI.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

He actually has a better ROI outside of Florida in the last five years than he does in Florida, by about $0.19, and it's a positive ROI.

I always wondered about that, if he is Calder based, would Gulfstream count as a shipper's stat? My observations are his horses don't run as well out of South Florida as they would elsewhere. I can think of a couple of examples, Jessica is Back and It's A Bird as the another. Regardless I will take that stat and factor it in, I don't remember him ever shipping out west and winning anything that can be termed as a substantial score though.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by CSC

I always wondered about that, if he is Calder based, would Gulfstream count as a shipper's stat? My observations are his horses don't run as well out of South Florida as they would elsewhere. I can think of a couple of examples, Jessica is Back and It's A Bird as the another. Regardless I will take that stat and factor it in, I don't remember him ever shipping out west and winning anything that can be termed as a substantial score though.

If we're talking about the last five years, you probably can't recall him shipping to SoCal and winning anything "substantial" because he's 0-for-4, period.

I think of him mostly for South Florida as well, but weird that the stats don't back that up and that he's actually more profitable everywhere else combined than he is in Florida.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

If we're talking about the last five years, you probably can't recall him shipping to SoCal and winning anything "substantial" because he's 0-for-4, period.

I think of him mostly for South Florida as well, but weird that the stats don't back that up and that he's actually more profitable everywhere else combined than he is in Florida.

The $ question is will he be 0-5 today or will it suddenly be a respectable 20% when he does ships out west? Regardless I like Turning Top if she is a price, what about Bart Evans shipping stats? + 2.41 in his last 43 starts.

[AlreadyHome]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Anyone have a single for me in the Mabee?

7 Gozzip Girl Leparoux J R 121 L

[robfla]

one heckuva mare

[CSC]

Good, Bad, and the Ugly

The Good - Wasted Tears (obvious)
The Bad - Mike Smith's ride on Gotta Have Her
The Ugly - Gozzip Girl