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Old 05-11-2021, 04:11 PM
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Old 05-11-2021, 04:32 PM
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Before Tuesday's draw, Craig Robertson, Baffert’s lawyer, confirmed an agreement with the Maryland Jockey Club that would allow Medina Spirit and Concert Tour to enter the Preakness.

In a letter to Alan Rifkin, an attorney for the Maryland Jockey Club, Robertson wrote Baffert consented to blood testing, monitoring and medical record reviews for Medina Spirit, Concert Tour and Beautiful Gift. The latter is entered in Friday’s Black-Eyed Susan Stakes at Pimlico.


Totally disagree with letting Medina Spirit and Concert Tour in this race because now the story is all about Baffert, cheating, drugs, etc....If either of them win it will just continue a very bad story all the way to the Belmont.
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He's got the 2 favorites, it's so ironic I wanna cry .....
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:15 PM
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He's got the 2 favorites, it's so ironic I wanna cry .....
Lets hope He doesn't win and this will at least temporarily subside for a while. Would be nice if the jocks say they won't ride for him too.
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:23 PM
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Lets hope He doesn't win and this will at least temporarily subside for a while. Would be nice if the jocks say they won't ride for him too.
I despise Baffert but we’re starting to enter la la land here. Whether or not Baffert has a horse in the race the story was going to be all about him. Jocks are still going to ride for him.

Until owners start pulling horses from him and he gets a real punishment....this will be another blip on the radar.
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:24 PM
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I despise Baffert but we’re starting to enter la la land here. Whether or not Baffert has a horse in the race the story was going to be all about him. Jocks are still going to ride for him.

Until owners start pulling horses from him and he gets a real punishment....this will be another blip on the radar.
Following Sea being moved out of his barn was a pretty big loss for him.
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:40 PM
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Following Sea being moved out of his barn was a pretty big loss for him.
Other trainers can also tell jocks that if they ride for a cheat, they don't ride for them.

Of course I am reaching for the stars in search of some moral character within this sport.
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Following Sea being moved out of his barn was a pretty big loss for him.
True, be interesting to see what Pletcher can do with him...good to see them sending more horses to Mandella as well.
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Other trainers can also tell jocks that if they ride for a cheat, they don't ride for them.

Of course I am reaching for the stars in search of some moral character within this sport.
Come on man. La la land is two rooms down.
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Come on man. La la land is two rooms down.
I’ll take the under
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Of course I am reaching for the stars in search of some moral character within this sport.


Don't worry not going to happen anytime soon.
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Don't worry not going to happen anytime soon.
9 days ago you were congratulating Baffert. Today you want jocks to refuse to ride for him and trainers to tell jocks they won’t ride them if they ride for Baffert.

Again, I despise Baffert but some of the most appalled by this have watched this happen for YEARS and said nothing. Just seems odd.
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Old 05-11-2021, 08:35 PM
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Johnny V did not get paid for his ride in the Derby, correct?
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Johnny V did not get paid for his ride in the Derby, correct?
Not yet. What does that have to do with anything?
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Old 05-11-2021, 08:51 PM
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If he is DQ'd then he is not getting paid. He just risked his health riding for a trainer who deceived him. Why would anybody ride in a race that they might not get paid for and why would you even want to be tied to Bob Baffert right now anyway?

Lets say he is not lying and they rubbed some liniment on the horse after a workout. Well if he thought he was clean then they probably rubbed it on him after a tough race like the derby too which puts him again within 14 day window of his next race. He could be DQ'd again if he wins. Are you going to take that chance?
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If he is DQ'd then he is not getting paid. He just risked his health riding for a trainer who deceived him. Why would anybody ride in a race that they might not get paid for and why would you even want to be tied to Bob Baffert right now anyway?

Lets say he is not lying and they rubbed some liniment on the horse after a workout. Well if he thought he was clean then they probably rubbed it on him after a tough race like the derby too which puts him again within 14 day window of his next race. He could be DQ'd again if he wins. Are you going to take that chance?
Are you trolling me? You have to be. Good stuff.
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That's funny because you are the KING of all trolls and just to be clear, I will NEVER respond to one of your posts, antagonistic comments, replies or rudeness because I DON'T LIKE YOU.


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