Jerry Brown's letter to TDN on HOY discussion

[philcski]

Originally Posted by prudery

Not exactly ...

It only stands in a kangaroo court ...

The statement will stand ONLY if it is qualified that she won a G! against males at three ONLY after races were graded post 1973 ...

The above also implies that there were NO graded races before that, or what a G1 is is totally up to conjecture--and in the case of the Rachelistas, convenience ...

OK you win. She's the first since 1945. Happy??? Who gives a sh1t about minutiae like this, she did amazing things this year and should be horse of the year.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by philcski

OK you win. She's the first since 1945. Happy??? Who gives a sh1t about minutiae like this, she did amazing things this year and should be horse of the year.

Actually I do NOT give a **** who wins ...

But if you are going to use broad statements and historical data to promote your claim, it might as well be correct ..

And from small minutae grows big myths ...

[CSC]

Originally Posted by prudery

Not exactly ...

It only stands in a kangaroo court ...

The statement will stand ONLY if it is qualified that she won a G! against males at three ONLY after races were graded post 1973 ...

The above also implies that there were NO graded races before that, or what a G1 is is totally up to conjecture--and in the case of the Rachelistas, convenience ...

I had to chuckle, better than being called a troll by Couch Pants.

[Smooth Operator]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...122501584.html


Um, Andy, in the second and third paragraphs of your article you say that "the key question in such debates is the most basic one: Who was the better horse? Who would have won in a head-to-head showdown?" … and "if they had faced each other on dirt, the winner probably would have been Rachel Alexandra".

Then, later in the piece, you go on to say that "running 1 1/4 miles on dirt is regarded as the definitive test of American thoroughbreds."

Now come on, Andy, level with us … can you honestly say … with a straight face … that Rachel probably would've handled Zenyatta in a 10-furlong contest on a dry, fast strip at, say, Churchill Downs or Saratoga?


Also, you unfairly dissed Zenyatta's competition while conveniently making no mention of the horrible fillies and mediocre (at very best) males Rachel faced all season long.

Summer Bird was probably best of the entire lot … and he was easy pickin's for her since he clearly needs at least ten panels to show his best.

If Rachel would've run into a legit 3yo colt like, say, a Bernardini … or a decent older horse … there would be no debate over HotY.


Don't get me wrong, man … really like your stuff … always have … but the spin in this one is a bit much…

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...122501584.html


Um, Andy, in the second and third paragraphs of your article you say that "the key question in such debates is the most basic one: Who was the better horse? Who would have won in a head-to-head showdown?" … and "if they had faced each other on dirt, the winner probably would have been Rachel Alexandra".

Then, later in the piece, you go on to say that "running 1 1/4 miles on dirt is regarded as the definitive test of American thoroughbreds."

Now come on, Andy, level with us … can you honestly say … with a straight face … that Rachel probably would've handled Zenyatta in a 10-furlong contest on a dry, fast strip at, say, Churchill Downs or Saratoga?


Also, you unfairly dissed Zenyatta's competition while conveniently making no mention of the horrible fillies and mediocre (at very best) males Rachel faced all season long.

Summer Bird was probably best of the entire lot … and he was easy pickin's for Rachel since he clearly needs at least ten panels to show his best.

If Rachel would've run into a legit 3yo colt like, say, a Bernardini … or a decent older horse … there would be no debate over HotY.


Don't get me wrong, man … really like your stuff … always have … but the spin in this one is a bit much…

let it go bro

[Smooth Operator]

Injustices are never let go, fred...