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Old 08-18-2017, 10:53 PM
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Now Arrogate is serving the purpose (or similar) of a rabbit for Collected?
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Old 08-19-2017, 01:06 AM
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It will be interesting to see how he runs. The reports I have heard on him are not very positive. The most respected workout report on the Southern California circuit is National Turf. They always rave about Arrogate and give him A and B+ works. They gave his most recent work a B- and said he was late switching leads which they have never seen before from him.

Considering how valuable Arrogate is, you wouldn't think Baffert would run if he wasn't doing well. So we will see what happens. If the horse runs anything close to his best he will obviously win. But considering that he ran so poorly last time and considering that unbiased people who are very familiar with the horse say that he isn't training nearly as good as normal, I would put the chances of him running a top effort at less than 50%.
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Old 08-19-2017, 04:54 AM
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So that players can decide for themselves about Arrogate preparations and interpretations of them, Andy Harrington (top) & Toby Turrell (bottom) comments and link to XBTV's video.



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Old 08-19-2017, 04:58 AM
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ARROGATE 8/14/17


ARROGATE 8/8/17


ARROGATE 8/1/17
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Old 08-19-2017, 09:22 AM
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Thanks Steve!
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:29 PM
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Cant wait for Arrogate to crush this field. Excited.
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:33 PM
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Cant wait for Arrogate to crush this field. Excited.
I am alive in the pick three 10x to the 235

I heard some good things about the 5 in the 6th so was able to single.
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:37 PM
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I am alive in the pick three 10x to the 235

I heard some good things about the 5 in the 6th so was able to single.
Good luck bro. Seriously i cant believe how quick people are giving up on the best horse in the world, but i hope you catch the 5 if Arrogate isn't back.
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:39 PM
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I am alive in the pick three 10x to the 235

I heard some good things about the 5 in the 6th so was able to single.
5 looked strong in the baby race. I went 5 deep and didn't use Hunt.
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:41 PM
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I am alive in the pick three 10x to the 235

I heard some good things about the 5 in the 6th so was able to single.
I think the pick 4 can pay big even with Arrogate.
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:52 PM
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I think its official and safe to say he does not like Del Mar.
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:55 PM
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For a trainer who just won the Pacific Classic, Baffert doesn't look too excited
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:55 PM
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Collected is a good horse
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:56 PM
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Collected is a good horse
yea, and the time was very quick and its going to get a big figure, but lets be honest, thats Arrogates C race.
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:58 PM
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yea, and the time was very quick and its going to get a big figure, but lets be honest, thats Arrogates C race.
Exactly.
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:59 PM
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For a trainer who just won the Pacific Classic, Baffert doesn't look too excited
He knows who the better horse is. It has to be frustrating.
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:00 PM
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I think he has to come to Belmont for the JCGC. He obviously dislikes this track.
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:03 PM
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Curlin as a 4-year-old.
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:04 PM
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Curlin as a 4-year-old.
Did he run 1 teen beyers? Because im pretty sure Arrogate just ran in the 110-115 range.
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:04 PM
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I think he has to come to Belmont for the JCGC. He obviously dislikes this track.
I'm not totally convinced that it is the track, particularly considering both Baffert and Smith's reaction.
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