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12-08-2009, 03:27 PM
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SYMPOSIUM: Betfair exec.. "Exchange format is U.S. future"
Betfair lobbies for U.S. allies
By Matt Hegarty http://www.drf.com/news/article/109426.html TUCSON, Ariz. - The world of entertainment has changed rapidly in the last 15 years, and the racing industry will need to adopt new betting models to compete or face a slow death, the chief executive of the British bet-matching company Betfair told the racing industry during Tuesday's opening session of the University of Arizona Symposium on Racing and Gaming here. Gerard Cunningham, the U.S. representative for Betfair, said that younger generations have grown up in a world in which data-rich entertainment options and social networks are de rigueur, a dynamic that he said threatened racing's current business model. In addition, Cunningham said, other gambling options such as slot machines and poker give bettors a bigger bang for the buck, allowing those games to steal market share from racing by merely tapping bettors out over a longer haul. Cunningham then invited racing industry officials to meet with him to discuss the legalization of betting exchanges, a type of market-based betting pioneered by Betfair that allows customers to bet against each other. Betting exchanges are illegal in the U.S. because the government believes that they allow customers to act as bookmakers. "My concern is that if we don't do this, I don't know what the future looks like for us in racing," Cunningham said. The comments underlined Betfair's efforts to ally the U.S. racing industry to its cause so that it can go hand-in-hand with horsemen and racetracks to lobby for the legalization of betting exchanges. Earlier this year, as part of that effort, Betfair purchased the account-wagering company TVG, giving the company a U.S. foothold for its operations.
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12-08-2009, 03:32 PM
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Steve, how do you feel about betting exchanges. I used to do quite well on IBETX laying against odds on favorites and getting juicy odds when going long a horse. Having said this , it is wide open for corruption as it is very easy to make a horse lose.
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12-08-2009, 03:39 PM
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Please legalize this so I can offer the RockHardTens of the world healthy odds on Zensational in the Sprint.
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12-08-2009, 03:55 PM
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12-10-2009, 06:35 AM
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12-10-2009, 07:26 AM
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Simply put, it would lower the takeout which would attract more gambling money....Horse racing needs to compete with sports gambling.
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12-10-2009, 07:42 AM
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But more than takeout, the nature of the internal model demands adjustment. As has been discussed widelt in the "model is upside down" discussions, the bet-takers are getting too much... The source of the product deserves an increase in the share.
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12-10-2009, 07:44 AM
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12-10-2009, 07:52 AM
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How about... 10-12% WPS. 14-16% 2/3 horse exotics/multis. 18-20% 4-6 horse exotics/multis. These numbers are OK as long as the distribution reaches the bricks and mortar origin of the bet properly...
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12-10-2009, 07:54 AM
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12-10-2009, 08:42 AM
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12-10-2009, 09:39 AM
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The amount of money going offshore is scary and it's meaningful enough to horse racing's bottom line that it should be at the forefront of discussions. Instead, many people seemed to be focused elsewhere.
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12-10-2009, 09:46 AM
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12-10-2009, 10:44 AM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
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12-10-2009, 11:03 AM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
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12-10-2009, 11:11 AM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
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