Secret Oath

[jms62]

A "Generation" is defined as 20-30 years so lets middle that to 25 years... Who we kicking out to let Secret Oath in? Seems to me she lost any chance of entering this group in the Ark Derby.... Laughable that we need to find 3 or 4 GOATS a year... Diminishes it

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jms62

A "Generation" is defined as 20-30 years so lets middle that to 25 years... Who we kicking out to let Secret Oath in? Seems to me she lost any chance of entering this group in the Ark Derby.... Laughable that we need to find 3 or 4 GOATS a year... Diminishes it

That's the way I see it as well. I also don't understand the hurry. Let's see how her career plays out.

At this point, is she better than Malathaat was last year? I don't see it, and with all due respect, to Malathaat, she hardly feels like a particularly memorable champion.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I wonder who was the first person to suggest Untapable might be a generational talent

I say it after every race about every horse in the race from $5K claimers to graded stakes horses. Of course, the horses never turn out to be generational talents but I am never wrong that they might have become a generational talent.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by jms62

A "Generation" is defined as 20-30 years so lets middle that to 25 years... Who we kicking out to let Secret Oath in? Seems to me she lost any chance of entering this group in the Ark Derby.... Laughable that we need to find 3 or 4 GOATS a year... Diminishes it

Absolutely. Nothing wrong with thinking you may be seeing something special and proclaiming it early. But once the evidence to the contrary kicks in and starts building up, to quote the great American philosopher Kenny Rogers, “you gotta know when to fold them.”

[Dahoss]

Are we still thinking Secret Oath is a generational talent?

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Are we still thinking Secret Oath is a generational talent?

Her only losses are to Cyberknife, who just defeated two super horses, and a filly that should have won the Belmont. The jury is still out. This will transition nicely to a conversation about Cyberknife’s chances for top 3YO male.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

Her only losses are to Cyberknife, who just defeated two super horses, and a filly that should have won the Belmont. The jury is still out. This will transition nicely to a conversation about Cyberknife’s chances for top 3YO male.

She was soundly beaten both times she tried males and Nest just swatted her away like she was a fly.

Nest was never winning the Belmont but maybe she’s the generational talent. She got beat less than a length by Gerrymander in her 2nd start and you saw what Gerrymander did in the Mother Goose. She was second best in the Oaks and Belmont but that performance Saturday was next level. Secret Oath has never run a race that fast.

Honestly neither one of them are likely to be considered generational. They’re nice fillies.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

She was soundly beaten both times she tried males and Nest just swatted her away like she was a fly.

Nest was never winning the Belmont but maybe she’s the generational talent. She got beat less than a length by Gerrymander in her 2nd start and you saw what Gerrymander did in the Mother Goose. She was second best in the Oaks and Belmont but that performance Saturday was next level. Secret Oath has never run a race that fast.

Honestly neither one of them are likely to be considered generational. They’re nice fillies.

Agreed. I was just assuming how Vic might respond. I actually forgot she ran in the Preakness. My memory must be going.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

Agreed. I was just assuming how Vic might respond. I actually forgot she ran in the Preakness. My memory must be going.

My bad

Originally Posted by moses

Agreed. I was just assuming how Vic might respond. I actually forgot she ran in the Preakness. My memory must be going.

Seems clear she's not as good as I'd thought/hoped she'd be.

Obviously VERY talented.

But not generational at this point.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

But not generational at this point.

“At this point”

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Seems clear she's not as good as I'd thought/hoped she'd be.

Obviously VERY talented.

But not generational at this point.

Very talented horses come around EVERY year. I don't know what fig Jerry Brown used for Nest but I wold think it is MUCH better then anything Secret Oak has ever run

Originally Posted by freddymo

Very talented horses come around EVERY year. I don't know what fig Jerry Brown used for Nest but I wold think it is MUCH better then anything Secret Oak has ever run

I would think you'd be right.

[cakes44]

Well that was impressive as heck.

Originally Posted by cakes44

Well that was impressive as heck.

Starting to think she's pretty good after all.

Still time to seek generational.