Could you guys explain track conditions?

[chucklestheclown]

What it means for most of the "Euro" BC contenders? Are there definitive explanations for what yielding is here as opposed to overseas, etc? And as I believe the track is going to be fast and firm at CD...what would that be considered to be at Longchamp, etc? Good?

[clyde]

They don't really know over there.


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Sometimes they just say it's dirty.

[my miss storm cat]

I'm gonna wait for Brock or No Chance to answer this one...

[Pedigree Ann]

What shows up as 'good' on Euro forms corresponds most closely to what we call firm. They use a penetrometer in most of these countries that gives a numerical measure for how wet the ground is, based on how far the meter penetrates the sod under a set pressure. In the form, each of the terms - good, soft, heavy - corresponds to a certain range of meter measurements. And this doesn't take into account a frequent situation on some British tracks, where conditions can be described as "good to soft, soft in places"; tracks that have undulations will have spots where the water is more concentrated.

[chucklestheclown]

Thanks. So soft would be yielding and heavy is soaking wet...sorta?

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

What shows up as 'good' on Euro forms corresponds most closely to what we call firm. They use a penetrometer in most of these countries that gives a numerical measure for how wet the ground is, based on how far the meter penetrates the sod under a set pressure. In the form, each of the terms - good, soft, heavy - corresponds to a certain range of meter measurements. And this doesn't take into account a frequent situation on some British tracks, where conditions can be described as "good to soft, soft in places"; tracks that have undulations will have spots where the water is more concentrated.

Steven H. Crist.

[chucklestheclown]

C'mon. This is good stuff. Useful too. Many Euro trainers have been complaining about "the speedway" they are making. Be careful or that voodoo may bite you.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

What shows up as 'good' on Euro forms corresponds most closely to what we call firm. They use a penetrometer in most of these countries that gives a numerical measure for how wet the ground is, based on how far the meter penetrates the sod under a set pressure. In the form, each of the terms - good, soft, heavy - corresponds to a certain range of meter measurements. And this doesn't take into account a frequent situation on some British tracks, where conditions can be described as "good to soft, soft in places"; tracks that have undulations will have spots where the water is more concentrated.

I would see it slightly differently to that. Our "good" is no where near your "firm" that's for certain. Your tracks are graded much faster to ours. For example - your "firm" would equate to "firm" or even "hard" in euro format.

Your good tracks would probably be classed as good to firm for us.

whereas our good tracks are probably on the soft side of good for you guys.

Michael Stoute isn't certain to run Workforce in the turf because of the firm track, so that tells you how firm it is.

our tracks are rated as follows:
Hard
Firm
Good to firm
Good
Good to yielding
yielding
yielding to soft
soft
heavy

[clyde]

This is insane.