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Old 08-17-2010, 02:55 PM
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I don't know much about that euro, so I'll have to wait for the PP's on him. The 2 is semi-live at a price.
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:05 PM
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So then who beats him? Or is he unbeatable in this spot?
The Irish one says Wigmore Hall is gonna run huge. It screws up my plans because that makes him an auto use for me, two deep, Wigmore Hall and Paddy O Prado
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:06 PM
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The remainder of the Million Day card will be drawn on Wednesday.
Which probably will be miserable, unless they use this 2 year old race then life will be great!
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:07 PM
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Paddy isn't unbeatable, but there's no chance that Working for Hops beats him in a fairly run race.
Hops is gonna struggle to even run third in this race. All eyes, literally, will be on him.
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:13 PM
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Which probably will be miserable, unless they use this 2 year old race then life will be great!


What 2yr old race do you speak of Thomas?
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:29 PM
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What 2yr old race do you speak of Thomas?


You get no answer
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:30 PM
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So Attfield is 0 for his last 17 in GI races. He also has a positive ROI on the turf over the last five years by a large margin. 98-526 with an ROI of $2.41, that's phenomenal with that kind of sample size.

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Was Alydeed his last grade 1 winner? I remember Talkin Man winning the Wood Memorial but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a grade 1 then. He does well with what he has, no argument there, but his horses almost always seem to be short of grade 1 caliber.
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:42 PM
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:59 PM
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What 2yr old race do you speak of Thomas?
One that will be horrible, miserable and suck.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:03 PM
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So Attfield is 0 for his last 17 in GI races. He also has a positive ROI on the turf over the last five years by a large margin. 98-526 with an ROI of $2.41, that's phenomenal with that kind of sample size.

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His numbers in these races are not great, I get that. Just thinking the horse will run well, like Ramon too. I will be betting her, for sure. Not enough to affect the odds though.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:05 PM
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Pleaseeee Thomas, talk to Joey.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:22 PM
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His numbers in these races are not great, I get that. Just thinking the horse will run well, like Ramon too. I will be betting her, for sure. Not enough to affect the odds though.
In the Dance Smartly she seemed like she was always going to get up but Mekong Melody another Attfield horse held on, the turf course there can be misleading. There is a big misconception that stretch runners have an inordinate advantage on the long stretch. Jambalaya never ran as well on that course as he did at GP and yes Arlington Park. If there is an angle at work for you maybe this is it and she will improve at AP. Still she won't get a nickle from me.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:25 PM
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In the Dance Smartly she seemed like she was always going to get up but Mekong Melody another Attfield horse held on, the turf course there can be misleading. There is a big misconception that stretch runners have an inordinate advantage on the long stretch. Jambalaya never ran as well on that course as he did at GP and yes Arlington Park. If there is an angle at work for you maybe this is it and she will improve at AP. Still she won't get a nickle from me.
Kinda what I was hoping for. Who will be getting your nickels that I am hoping will become my nickels?
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:32 PM
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Kinda what I was hoping for. Who will be getting your nickels that I am hoping will become my nickels?
I've had some goodluck with Euro's throughout the years, that's probably where I am leaning for the Million/Bev D.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:40 PM
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I remember Talkin Man winning the Wood Memorial but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a grade 1 then.
The last time the Wood wasn't g1 was when they didn't have gradings for stakes.
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:53 PM
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The last time the Wood wasn't g1 was when they didn't have gradings for stakes.
The Wood was a grade II from 1995-2001, which would include the victory by Talkin Man in 1995.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:55 PM
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His win in the Grade 2 Gotham over Dahoss was even more impressive one race before the Wood, with Smith aboard. No doubt it was one of the reasons why he chose TM over Thunder Gulch. I thought it was prophetic how Lukas referred to him as Walkin Man leading up to that derby. TG was able to back up Lukas' trash talk.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:20 PM
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Pleaseeee Thomas, talk to Joey.
We are hoping they use this race

SUBSTITUTE RACE NO 1 ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING S1 Purse $41,480. (Includes $10,980 from the I.O.A. for ICF) For Fillies Two
Years Old Which Have Never Won $8,800 Once Other Than Maiden,
Claiming, Starter, Or State Bred Or Have Never Won Two Races Or
Claiming Price $50,000. (Condition Eligibility)
Weight 120 lbs.
Non-winners Of A Race Since July 21 3 lbs.
Claiming Price $50,000
(Races Where Entered For $35,000 Or Less Not Considered)
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:18 PM
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hot cha cha is as honest as they can be......i'll take a stab at 6-1.
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Old 08-18-2010, 08:49 AM
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We are hoping they use this race

SUBSTITUTE RACE NO 1 ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING S1 Purse $41,480. (Includes $10,980 from the I.O.A. for ICF) For Fillies Two
Years Old Which Have Never Won $8,800 Once Other Than Maiden,
Claiming, Starter, Or State Bred Or Have Never Won Two Races Or
Claiming Price $50,000. (Condition Eligibility)
Weight 120 lbs.
Non-winners Of A Race Since July 21 3 lbs.
Claiming Price $50,000
(Races Where Entered For $35,000 Or Less Not Considered)

If they do, Good Luck to you guys.
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