Done till Spa. F horse racing

fpsoxfan · #1 05-04-2019, 06:29 PM

Yup. I did have Maximum Security. Let’s get that straight.
With that said folks, that DQ was horrible. These fick$ing assholes wonder why
People are going to casinos. A complete disgrace to the sport of horse racing.
I’m done. This decision is a complete reflection of America today.
Complete pussification. And fuc$ bill Mott. I can’t wait to see that puke at Saratoga. I’ll get bounced but it will be worth it. **** this ****!

opusone · #2 05-04-2019, 06:39 PM

He knows in heart he did not win the Derby. Muddy track and the horse slides a bit. 20 would not have won.

Alabama Stakes · #3 05-04-2019, 06:41 PM

Terrible DQ . 1 Hoss had no opening and forced his way up in there. Bullshrt call

tanner12oz · #4 05-04-2019, 06:43 PM

Best horse didn't win...call I'm actually about with. I'm blown away that they flipped it though. Congrats to horse racing to taking 2 mins and turning it into 30

Kitan · #5 05-04-2019, 06:50 PM

There was no stewards inquiry. Objection was 20 vs 7. The interference from 7 onto 20 did not affect the result.

Was there an objection from other riders? No. Was there an official inquiry looking at other events? No.

Given that, anything other than the 7 staying up is farcical.

opusone · #6 05-04-2019, 06:53 PM

To me it feels like the Derby did not happen.

philcski · #7 05-04-2019, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan

There was no stewards inquiry. Objection was 20 vs 7. The interference from 7 onto 20 did not affect the result.

Was there an objection from other riders? No. Was there an official inquiry looking at other events? No.

Given that, anything other than the 7 staying up is farcical.

The 18 also claimed foul.

Rudeboyelvis · #8 05-04-2019, 06:45 PM

I don't post here very often at all, but I've literally seen it all today.

Full Disclosure: while I respected Country House, I did not use the horse in my trifecta. So I personally don't really have a b*tch coming to me - from a bettor standpoint - anyway.

I've seen bad takedowns, some of which I've benefitted from, some of which were ignored and also benefitted from. And vise versa.

Today marks a brand new chapter in abject absurdity. A chapter where brain-dead, know-nothing-about-the-sport *Chief Stewards* are Charged with making decisions that affect literally ten's of millions of dollars of hard-earned wagering dollars.

This CANNOT go unchallenged. The integrity of the sport (or what's left of it) is at stake.

knickslions2 · #9 05-04-2019, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I don't post here very often at all, but I've literally seen it all today.

Full Disclosure: while I respected Country House, I did not use the horse in my trifecta. So I personally don't really have a b*tch coming to me - from a bettor standpoint - anyway.

I've seen bad takedowns, some of which I've benefitted from, some of which I've were ignored and also benefitted from. And vise versa.

Today marks a brand new chapter in abject absurdity. A chapter where brain-dead, know-nothing-about-the-sport *Chief Stewards* are Charged with making decisions that affect literally ten's of millions of dollars of hard-earned wagering dollars.

This CANNOT go unchallenged. The integrity of the sport (or what's left of it) is at stake.

Dan this was worst travesty I ever saw and I have no betting interest in this. I will watch tomorrow when I’m sober but I’m not drunk enough to think this was fair.

Dahoss · #10 05-04-2019, 06:52 PM

I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.

Rudeboyelvis · #11 05-04-2019, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.

War of Will absolutely was fouled. Hossy you are correct - no debate.
Gafflione was interviewed and said he had no horse, regardless of MS coming out. The fact remains - Country House was never touched, never vied for the lead but was put up based on nonsense.

Heels1989 · #12 05-04-2019, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

War of Will absolutely was fouled. Hossy you are correct - no debate.
Gafflione was interviewed and said he had no horse, regardless of MS coming out. The fact remains - Country House was never touched, never vied for the lead but was put up based on nonsense.

^^^this!!!

Dahoss · #13 05-04-2019, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

War of Will absolutely was fouled. Hossy you are correct - no debate.
Gafflione was interviewed and said he had no horse, regardless of MS coming out. The fact remains - Country House was never touched, never vied for the lead but was put up based on nonsense.

I think MS was DQ’d for fouling War of Will though. That’s why he was placed behind him.

Total agreement Country House wasn’t fouled.

fpsoxfan · #14 05-04-2019, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.

Ok. Tell that to the crowd that was booing. You’ve seen worse Hoss and you know it.

Dahoss · #15 05-04-2019, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Ok. Tell that to the crowd that was booing. You’ve seen worse Hoss and you know it.

I’m sorry you lost but the crowd booing doesn’t matter.

I’ve seen worse stay up and I’ve seen less come down. It has no bearing on what happened today.

fpsoxfan · #16 05-04-2019, 07:04 PM

If the 1 got second I’d be more convinced. Bad call. I saw mike smith do worse multiple timee including travers day

philcski · #17 05-04-2019, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.

^^^ I'm on this page.

I had no financial interest here, I bet Game Winner. The reality is he fouled War of Will AND started a chain reaction with the 18 AND sent Code of Honor into the rail all within the same 100 yards. He HAD to come down. There was no gray area with regard to the rule. War of Will finished 8th and I'm 100% certain he would have finished better than that if he was not fouled- the rule is if you foul someone and the horse that's fouled has been compromised on potential for finishing higher you get taken down. End of story. If this was the 1st on a Monday at Parx like you said, it would not even be debatable and we would be turning the page. The stewards did the right thing not just for the result but for the safety of the game.

Rudeboyelvis · #18 05-04-2019, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2

Dan this was worst travesty I ever saw and I have no betting interest in this. I will watch tomorrow when I’m sober but I’m not drunk enough to think this was fair.

Tom, This is the first time in a while that I was sober

for it.. I need to get back to drinking if this is how it works