Casino Drive

[letswastemoney]

The casual fan won't know who Better Than Honour is. They will just look at the program and think..."Oh look it's Big Brown the Derby winner...I'll bet on him!" I think there will be some sort of value on Casino Drive.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

The casual fan won't know who Better Than Honour is. They will just look at the program and think..."Oh look it's Big Brown the Derby winner...I'll bet on him!" I think there will be some sort of value on Casino Drive.

The casual fan will know exactly who Better than Honour is ... the media will hype it all day long, I'm sure.

[ShadowRoll]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

The casual fan won't know who Better Than Honour is. They will just look at the program and think..."Oh look it's Big Brown the Derby winner...I'll bet on him!" I think there will be some sort of value on Casino Drive.

I know that some define value as public odds better than your own estimation of the horse's true odds. But 5-2 just doesn't do it for me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Looks like the fig on the Darley runner, Unbridled's Heart, will be very slightly higher than Casino Drive.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

With a 5.75 second difference in a one-turn Belmont Route at those distances - isn't the Peter Pan supposed to get a number 5 points faster?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

With a 5.75 second difference in a one-turn Belmont Route at those distances - isn't the Peter Pan supposed to get a number 5 points faster?

I think if you look at the 10th race you could make a case that the track speeded up a little bit.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

With a 5.75 second difference in a one-turn Belmont Route at those distances - isn't the Peter Pan supposed to get a number 5 points faster?

I thought I said that already.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think if you look at the 10th race you could make a case that the track speeded up a little bit.

My thoughts watching were the maiden was more impressive. I only looked at the longer races to get a quick measure, will look at the whole card tomorrow.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I thought I said that already.

But did you say it in the form of a question?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

But did you say it in the form of a question?

You are correct...I merely stated it as fact.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

My thoughts watching were the maiden was more impressive. I

Did you watch the headon closely; especially on the backstretch?

[cmorioles]

No, just the live feed. He won so easy I'm not sure I'll ever watch that head on. What am I missing?

[VOL JACK]

Un H 100
C D 99

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

No, just the live feed. He won so easy I'm not sure I'll ever watch that head on. What am I missing?

2nd time starter running right up against the rail, had to be worst part of the track, till he entered the stretch; probably did at least half the backstretch lefty, as well. I realize he saved ground while the 5 was outside.

Kent is either the most confident jock out there or he's nuts. He almost never rides the rail (not like this) and he can't be that familiar with this horse to trust him the way he did.

do they run clockwise or counter in Japan?

[cmorioles]

My mistake, thought you meant the other horse from the 5th.

[Betsy]

Haven't posted here in awhile, but I had to after Casino Drive.......although why am I not surprised that he didn't get that good of a Beyer ? Wouldn't you think that running 1:47 and change would be sufficient for at least triple digits?

I think this is a case where the numbers don't tell the whole story. Casino Drive hadn't run in almost two months, had to deal with an extremely long trip and also quarantine. His trainer didn't even feel that he'd be all that sharp today. I was pretty much WOW'D by his race.......He didn't break well at all, but the colt just dragged Kent up into the race; you could tell he had running on his mind. Then, he went between horses like it was no big deal and took off - no loafing, no cause for worry, no anything. Casino Drive looked great in the paddock and was full of life, bucking several times, but I didn't think he'd run like that (though I hoped he would in my dreams).

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i like the 3rd race off a birth angle.

and he's flexible. he can run clockwise and counter clockwise.

line of the day. fits right in with the vanned off/ups remark in another thread from yesterday. ( i think it was yesterday, maybe day before).

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Haven't posted here in awhile, but I had to after Casino Drive.......although why am I not surprised that he didn't get that good of a Beyer ? Wouldn't you think that running 1:47 and change would be sufficient for at least triple digits?

I think the horse needs to go for the "IMPLANT" Beyer. I'm sure the connections can afford it.

[pick4]

I think it's a mistake to get caught up in the fig. If Throat is correct and there is a split varient it was still a fine performance by Casino Drive. These were not top quality horses he faced today but he was impressive in how he defeated the competition. Especially since it was his 2nd career race and first race in the US. He looks like a real racehorse with upside potential and should give Big Brown a challenge should the big horse take care of business next week.

[Danzig]

also answered the question of whether casino drive would handle the belmont surface.
i doubt the small field some felt would materialize in a few weeks will really occur, much like the preakness is shaping up much larger than originally thought.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Danzig

also answered the question of whether casino drive would handle the belmont surface.

Come on.