8/23-24 (DMR): DMR H. (G2); PacClassic (G1), O'Brien, Mile (G2's)

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

LOL. yeah.

I can't wait to see how PG1985 spins Shared Belief kicking Game on Dude's butt.

Probably gonna go with the "perfect trip" angle for SB while GoD had to do all the early running.

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[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

LOL. yeah.

I can't wait to see how PG1985 spins Shared Belief kicking Game on Dude's butt.

Probably gonna go with the "perfect trip" angle for SB while GoD had to do all the early running.

Pretty much said exactly this plus some about 2min after the race ended. Im not taking anything away from Shared Beleif. I guess he is OK.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Which is a valid explanation. Shared Belief is very good, but let's not pretend that race wasn't served up to him on a silver platter.

I don't disagree with it being gift wrapped but he won the way he should have...or maybe even better in that it was a virtual hand ride. No?

[Indian Charlie]

It was his freaking sixth lifetime start, going up against much more seasoned horses. Gift wrapped???

His first two starts this year were freaking exhibition races no less.

Game on dude had zero excuses. He opened up a big lead having it his own way, and the winner blew by him like it was nothing.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It was his freaking sixth lifetime start, going up against much more seasoned horses. Gift wrapped???

His first two starts this year were freaking exhibition races no less.

Game on dude had zero excuses. He opened up a big lead having it his own way, and the winner blew by him like it was nothing.

His own way?? Pace was very fast. Only 1 horse ran on and it was the winner who tripped out.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It was his freaking sixth lifetime start, going up against much more seasoned horses. Gift wrapped???

His first two starts this year were freaking exhibition races no less.

Game on dude had zero excuses. He opened up a big lead having it his own way, and the winner blew by him like it was nothing.

Saying that a horse who dueled through :22 and :45 splits going 1 1/4 miles "had zero excuses" for losing and "had it his own way" shows a pretty staggering misunderstanding of race dynamics. I'm just gonna assume it's the noise of the Shared Belief pom-poms blocking all rational thought in this case.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Saying that a horse who dueled through :22 and :45 splits going 1 1/4 miles "had zero excuses" for losing and "had it his own way" shows a pretty staggering misunderstanding of race dynamics. I'm just gonna assume it's the noise of the Shared Belief pom-poms blocking all rational thought in this case.

It was a slight overstatement. The reality is though that God is a horse that is much better running loose and he was able to do just that. Would you have preferred that he had gone 48.4 fighting his jock?

All in all, he ended up running a pretty good race. God that is.

I doubt had the race been run any differently, that he'd have finished any closer than he did

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It was a slight overstatement. The reality is though that God is a horse that is much better running loose and he was able to do just that. Would you have preferred that he had gone 48.4 fighting his jock?

All in all, he ended up running a pretty good race. God that is.

I doubt had the race been run any differently, that he'd have finished any closer than he did

Stop bro, just stop. So if GOD went 47.3 w/out that long shot pressing him, he doesn't draw away turning for home??
I don’t buy it.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Stop bro, just stop. So if GOD went 47.3 w/out that long shot pressing him, he doesn't draw away turning for home??
I don’t buy it.

well, no. Shared Belief was still in the race. If the long shot wasn't in the race, then Shared Belief likely sits 5 or 6 lengths closer to GOD if he goes 47.3 and GOD is not drawing away from Shared Belief because Shared Belief was actually in that race. He's a better horse right now.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

well, no. Shared Belief was still in the race. If the long shot wasn't in the race, then Shared Belief likely sits 5 or 6 lengths closer to GOD if he goes 47.3 and GOD is not drawing away from Shared Belief because Shared Belief was actually in that race. He's a better horse right now.

It really is that simple. He's just a better horse right now. They go slower, he sits closer. Faster, he hangs back. This isn't some one pace grinder with no turn of foot. He makes his own trip.

[herkhorse]

Baffert whining like Coburn.

"Longshots are always the biggest danger to a horse like Game on Dude," Baffert said. "They always want to go after him. I hate to see that. I think he was gonna' win if they hadn't gone after him like that. It's frustrating to train a horse and get him ready for his biggest race and have a horse who has no shot to win take that chance away."

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz3BO7s1VPv

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Which is a valid explanation. Shared Belief is very good, but let's not pretend that race wasn't served up to him on a silver platter.

If they went slower do you think he would have been closer?

The horse got a lot scarier in terms of talent by being mid pack between horses off a fast than he did in all his cake trips previously near or on the front end.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Baffert whining like Coburn.

"Longshots are always the biggest danger to a horse like Game on Dude," Baffert said. "They always want to go after him. I hate to see that. I think he was gonna' win if they hadn't gone after him like that. It's frustrating to train a horse and get him ready for his biggest race and have a horse who has no shot to win take that chance away."

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz3BO7s1VPv

horses with a particular style are prone to racing luck. front runners get brave when left alone, closers need a pace to come into and no traffic issues.
his complaints are silly. the horse may well have won had he been left alone-but it's not a valid complaint. what, they're supposed to just leave him alone and let him have his own way? ridiculous.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Stop bro, just stop. So if GOD went 47.3 w/out that long shot pressing him, he doesn't draw away turning for home??
I don’t buy it.

sometimes horses that seem to always have "perfect trips" make their trips perfect by having both good early speed and a burst of speed when asked. IMO, Shared Belief was beating Game on Dude yesterday in any scenario. No one seems to have mentioned Shared Belief's awkward start where he brushed the gate... 2:00.small change for 1 1/4 miles on Polytrack is "racehorse" time.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Baffert whining like Coburn.

"Longshots are always the biggest danger to a horse like Game on Dude," Baffert said. "They always want to go after him. I hate to see that. I think he was gonna' win if they hadn't gone after him like that. It's frustrating to train a horse and get him ready for his biggest race and have a horse who has no shot to win take that chance away."

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz3BO7s1VPv

Seriously Bob? I guess the rest of them should have just sat back and not challenged him at all so they could let him win and run for second.

[NTamm1215]

This is mostly sour grapes on his part, but did the connections of the Argentinian horse really think they were going to stalk Game on Dude through insane fractions and be successful? Mystery Train was beaten by almost 50 lengths in the end.

This is one of the perils of having a one-dimensional horse, and in this case Baffert is pissed because someone essentially entered a rabbit. He can call Nick Zito and ask him how it feels to have a speed horse have to face two rabbits.

[asudevil]

Dude's had a great run. 6.5M Gave the owners lots of thrills. BC Classic was the blemish.

[Indian Charlie]

I actually thought GoD ran a huge race. I don't think he's done at all.

Shared Belief is just better.

[alysheba4]

that horse is a freak.

[Pants II]

Shared Belief to the Goodwood (D'awesome Again)?