Wisconsin Recall

[Danzig]

i read today that walker is the first governor ever to survive a recall vote. hadn't realized that before...

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sorry. The Democrats have nothing at all to do with the multiple arrests out of Walker's office. That's the FBI.

BTW: Walker publicly has always said he called in the FBI and asked for the investigation. Walker is a stone cold liar. The release of memos this past weekend prove that Walker stonewalled the investigation as long as he could.

Maybe Walker can get a prison cell with Blagoevitch? Or maybe just with his multiple former employees. It's hard to tell, so many have been charged with felonies, so many have plea-bargained.

The people have indeed spoken and re-elected this lying, deceitful man. Hard to explain what uneducated voters do, but it's their right to be idiots. Hopefully the indictment will come down soon, and Wisconsin can move on from this disaster of this man's participation in politics a the local and state level.

Walker called for the John Doe investigation. That is a fact

Interesting because people voted against what you believe they are idiots. Of course you know what is best for them just like Obama so they should just trust you and give you all their money, votes, etc because you are in fact smarter than they are.

The 99% percenters appear to be off by 53%

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Walker called for the John Doe investigation. That is a fact

Not according to the e-mails from within Walkers' office that were published last Friday, and the FBI. They say Walker lied when he said he called for the investigation.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not according to the e-mails from within Walkers' office that were published last Friday, and the FBI. They say Walker lied when he said he called for the investigation.

please provide proof of this

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by wiphan

please provide proof of this

Read a newspaper or something. Go look it up you will find it. Dismissed.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

please provide proof of this

See David Schusters articles and appearances from last Friday. It got buried in the election runup. Just google David Schuster and Scott Walker.

Here, from Daily Beast earlier this week: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...in-on-him.html

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...138686104.html

And here: "Document suggests Walker stalled inquiry" http://m.jsonline.com/topstories/156065645.htm

Walker's campaign asked the FBI to publicly clear his name as a subject of the investigation before the election. They have to, by law, if Walker isn't the subject of the investigation. They refused to clear Walker's name. Walker is John Doe.

Walker now apparently has two problems: the campaign lawbreaking that occurred in his office in Milwaukee, and a federal probe now centering on his actions as Governor.

Some of what came out last Friday:

"Sources inside the Department of Justice’s public integrity unit, reported that Walker is indeed a target of a federal criminal probe. He pointed to the fact that the DA has not cleared Walker’s name, as they would be obligated to do if he requested it and he was not the target."

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

See David Schusters articles and appearances from last Friday. It got buried in the election runup. Just google David Schuster and Scott Walker.

Walker's campaign asked the FBI to publicly clear his name as a subject of the investigation before the election. They have to, by law, if Walker isn't the subject of the investigation. They refused to clear Walker's name. Walker is John Doe.

Walker now apparently has two problems: the campaign lawbreaking that occurred in his office in Milwaukee, and a federal probe now centering on his actions as Governor.

Some of what came out last Friday:

"Sources inside the Department of Justice’s public integrity unit, reported that Walker is indeed a target of a federal criminal probe. He pointed to the fact that the DA has not cleared Walker’s name, as they would be obligated to do if he requested it and he was not the target."

emails please no more bs, etc speculation. Why don't you actually follow what your signature line states. PROOF please

I am just an idiot from WI so I need to see actual proof of what you say not some newspaper or online article. Just the facts please. You said that their were emails published from Walkers office. Please show me just one email

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

emails please no more bs, etc speculation. Why don't you actually follow what your signature line states. PROOF please

Look in my post, above, I found it and added links for you to click on.

Here, from Daily Beast earlier this week: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...in-on-him.html

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...138686104.html

And here: "Document suggests Walker stalled inquiry" http://m.jsonline.com/topstories/156065645.htm

You will have to read them yourself, however.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Look in my post, above, I found it and added links for you to click on.

Here, from Daily Beast earlier this week: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...in-on-him.html

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...138686104.html

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...138686104.html

You will have to read them yourself, however.

The MJS article is from Feb and has no emails in it

The other article has no emails in it either.

Do you have the emails please

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

The MJS article is from Feb and has no emails in it

The other article has no emails in it either.

Do you have the emails please

Too lazy to click on links within the articles, huh? Have you simply not read any of the articles that have been published about your governor during his term? This is all new information for you, that you deliberately choose to ignore?

Yes, click on the third one. You will have to click on additional links, yourself, on the court documents, however, to read it yourself. And again, David Schuster published copies of the document last Friday, I'm still trying to find it.

"Document suggests Walker stalled inquiry"
http://m.jsonline.com/topstories/156065645.htm

Here, I'll copy part of it, so you don't have to click on a key

Document suggests Walker stalled inquiry

By Daniel Bice of the Journal Sentinel

May 31, 2012 | (1333) Comments

Milwaukee County prosecutors opened the secret John Doe criminal investigation more than two years ago after being stonewalled by Gov. Scott Walker's office when he was county executive, according to a newly released record.

The document appears to cast doubt on some of Walker's claims about his role in launching and cooperating with the investigation.

On May 5, 2010, Assistant District Attorney Bruce Landgraf filed a petition with court officials asking if his office could initiate a secret investigation into what happened with $11,000 in donations intended for Operation Freedom, an annual event honoring veterans.

By making it a secret John Doe investigation, Landgraf wrote that prosecutors might get better cooperation from Walker's office, which had been "unwilling or unable" to turn over records and information needed in the investigation. He said he would need to subpoena county records and officials.

"It may be the County Executive's Office is reluctant to provide information to investigators due to a fear of political embarrassment," Landgraf wrote, noting that Walker was then running for governor.

But Ciara Matthews, spokeswoman for the governor's recall campaign, said the filing was inaccurate.

In 2009, Matthews said, Walker had his former chief of staff, Tom Nardelli, contact the DA's office [ edit for Wiphan: if you click on this link, in the original article, it takes you to the original document you want to read] over concerns about what a local chapter of the Military Order of the Purple Heart had done with donations it received from the county for Operation Freedom.

"Multiple follow-ups were made by the chief of staff to the district attorney's office to offer assistance in that investigation, and any statement to the contrary is not correct," Matthews said.

The document was included in a court filing this week by the lawyer for Timothy Russell, a former top-level Walker aide who has been charged with embezzling more than $25,000 intended for Operation Freedom and two political candidates. His attorney, Dennis Krueger, wants a judge to dismiss the charges against his client because they involved matters that reached far beyond the original scope of the John Doe probe.

The investigation has led to criminal charges against three former Walker aides, an appointee and a major campaign contributor.

On Thursday, Walker's former county spokeswoman, Fran McLaughlin, was granted immunity as part of the investigation. She is the 13th individual to receive immunity in the case.

Walker's current spokesman, Cullen Werwie, also has been given immunity to testify behind closed doors.

Continued ...

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Too lazy to click on links within the articles, huh? Have you simply not read any of the articles that have been published about your governor during his term? This is all new information for you, that you deliberately choose to ignore?

Yes, click on the third one. You will have to click on additional links, yourself, on the court documents, however, to read it yourself. And again, David Schuster published copies of the document last Friday, I'm still trying to find it.

"Document suggests Walker stalled inquiry"
http://m.jsonline.com/topstories/156065645.htm

Here, I'll copy part of it, so you don't have to click on a key

I am an idiot remember. Can you show me one email released from Walker's office? I still don't see it

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

I am an idiot remember. Can you show me one email released from Walker's office? I still don't see it

Yes, I said you'd have to, you know, actually follow the links in the articles yourself. Here, because you were too stupid to figure out how to click in the article above, is a direct link to what you want.

Now, you will have to move your hand over to your mouse, and click on this. And read it.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...f+&hl=en&gl=us

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, I said you'd have to, you know, actually follow the links in the articles yourself. Here, because you were too stupid to figure out how to click in the article above, is a direct link to what you want.

Now, you will have to move your hand over to your mouse, and click on this. And read it.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...f+&hl=en&gl=us

not nice

[Riot]

Originally Posted by bigrun

not nice

Hey, I'm just agreeing with Wiphan. Wiphan was the one that said he was an idiot.

After all, I have posted, multiple times, the very document he wanted to see. He just, you know, keeps saying he can't "see" it.

Sounds pretty stupid to me.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Hey, I'm just agreeing with Wiphan. Wiphan was the one that said he was an idiot.

After all, I have posted, multiple times, the very document he wanted to see. He just, you know, keeps saying he can't "see" it.

Sounds pretty stupid to me.

I still don't see a single email from Scott Walker released or published in any of the information.

I voted for Scott Walker. You called all of the people that voted for him an idiot thus I along with 53% of the people that voted for Scott Walker for again are idiots according to you.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

I still don't see a single email from Scott Walker released or published in any of the information.

Yeah. They probably have it wrong in the copy of the actual criminal complaint I gave you the link to.

I said new documents show Walker lied. He didn't aid the criminal complaint, he stalled it. You said you wanted proof. I gave you the link to the actual legal court documents.

Keep denying it exists.

I voted for Scott Walker. You called all of the people that voted for him an idiot thus I along with 53% of the people that voted for Scott Walker for again are idiots according to you.

Yes. I do think the 53% of people that voted for the clearly lying, under-investigation Scott Walker are idiots.

Here's one reason why: you might contact the Journal-Sentinel, and tell them that you think their story about Scott Walker lying about asking for the criminal investigation, rather actually blocking the criminal investigation, and the copies of the proof they published with the story (that you have been given the link to, but continue to deny it exists), is wrong.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah. They probably have it wrong in the copy of the actual criminal complaint I gave you the link to.

I said new documents show Walker lied. He didn't aid the criminal complaint, he stalled it. You said you wanted proof. I gave you the link to the actual legal court documents.

Keep denying it exists.



Yes. I do think the 53% of people that voted for the clearly lying, under-investigation Scott Walker are idiots.

Here's one reason why: you might contact the Journal-Sentinel, and tell them that you think their story about Scott Walker lying about asking for the criminal investigation, rather actually blocking the criminal investigation, and the copies of the proof they published with the story (that you have been given the link to, but continue to deny it exists), is wrong.

Fortunately you are in the minority

You specifically stated that there were released published emails from Scott Walker's office yet you can not produce a single one. Please provide just 1 email

[wiphan]

What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by wiphan

What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof.

Are you suggesting it is not in there? I read the entire thing and you sir are correct.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Fortunately you are in the minority

You specifically stated that there were released published emails from Scott Walker's office yet you can not produce a single one. Please provide just 1 email

They are the attachments to the court documents you are ignoring the existence of.

Let's go back:

Riot says that it turns out Scott Walker lied. He did not ask for the criminal investigation, Walker stonewalled it.
Wiphan says, "Give me proof" that Scott Walker lied, and did not ask for the criminal investigation, but stonewalled it.
Riot provides the proof - in the form of the newspaper article outlining it, with the attachment of the original court complaint proving it.

Wiphan and Clip Clop pretend it doesn't exist.

Wiphan says, "Walker called for the John Doe investigation. That is a fact". No, Wiphan. Scott Walker lied about that, and the proof is right in front of your eyes.